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Copes in the islands (pictures)
    #4134173 - 05/04/05 08:28 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Location: Virgin Islands
Found in: Horse sh**
Spore print: Black

I'm 99% sure we picked up a ton of copelandia cyanescens.

Enjoy the pictures:



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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
    #4134182 - 05/04/05 08:30 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: Holydiver]
    #4134280 - 05/04/05 09:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

sorry, they should be fixed now


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
    #4134293 - 05/04/05 09:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Nice pictures, you are really fortunate to experience a region like that. :thumbup: :mushroom2:


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: Holydiver]
    #4134319 - 05/04/05 09:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Do they bruise blue? In pick 4 they look like some sort of Inky Cap. I'm not sure though, ask someone with more experience identifying mushrooms.


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: Dragonaut]
    #4134337 - 05/04/05 09:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

They were the oldest and biggest we found that day. It wasn't inky at all to touch. They were stained deep blue. Another was almost black from I'm guessing all the spores landing on it.


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
    #4134352 - 05/04/05 09:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry, in the pic they look black and a little bit inky. Someone else want to try and I.D. these?


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: Dragonaut]
    #4135302 - 05/05/05 12:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

look like pan. antrillium to me. I dont see any blueing in any of those photos. Actually now that I look at the 1st and fourth photo fullsized, Im fairly certian they are antrillium.


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: cwbfromtheksvi]
    #4135322 - 05/05/05 12:34 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

awesome pictures though.


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
    #4136131 - 05/05/05 03:48 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ugh, dude, maybe it's just me, but considering the current legal climate surrounding mushrooms, I wouldn't post pics of myself with psychedelics in my mouth! haha nice pics though.


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
    #4136199 - 05/05/05 04:27 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Congratulations. you have picked yourself a ton of Panaeolus antillarum and no, they are not psychoactive and they do not contain any psilocine and/or psilocybine.

Here are two more images of the same shrooms





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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #4136375 - 05/05/05 06:55 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hmm this is a tough one for me.

Does anyone have any pictures of a less Hemispherical cap on the pans?

I did find alot of the mushrooms mjshroomer is holding, and they might be pans in the first picture. But the two big ones in the 4th picture, even if the photo doesn't show it were extremely blue.

We threw away a lot of pans picking that day. I judged them by the shape of the caps and how white they were. The really white ones and the non-bell shaped caps were tossed., but I'm pretty positive we came back with a good amount of copes too.

BTW the ones in our mouthes are the same ones as picture 4 if it gives you more insight.

I wish I had gotten pictures of the entire collection for you guys.

EDIT:

Thought of two more questions.

Do the pan ants get cracked caps? I was under the impression that they were left smooth.

And how does the smell of the two mushrooms compare when dried?

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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
    #4136769 - 05/05/05 10:32 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

All Copelandia and Panaeolus caps become cracked caps with age. Apparently you have not read the descriptions of Copelandia cyanescens posted here in the Shreooery's Ultimate Shroom Guide..

As for all white caps. That too is bs. Caps start out a yellowish to brown to black from spores on many caps.

See:

http://www.mushroomjohn.com/copelandiacyaenscens1.htm

There are more than 300 images in the Copelandia description pages at my site.








And there you can see some variation some variation in the genera Copelandia of various colored caps in the genera. see.

And Copelandia cyanescens do have a thin stem and cap which break as easily as Panaeolus antillarum.. Cracked caps are one of the characteristics of the genus Copelandia. And they are hygrophanous like Psilocybe mushrooms, that is, they change color in drying and with age.

And blue extremely well.

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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #4137180 - 05/05/05 12:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If your in USVI goto Tortolla and ask around I'm sure someone will point in the right direction...from what I know about the island of St.Thomas there are plenty of cubes growing there...have fun lucky fuckers


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
    #4137319 - 05/05/05 01:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Copelandia cyanescens do not grow from horse dung.

You'll need to find some cow dung for the Copelandia's.


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #4137451 - 05/05/05 01:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i see no bluing reaction of what so ever-- Antillarum definitely

these are what the copez looked like for me here in central TX last Oct/Nov- which Oddly enough i didnt find a single Antillarum around or next to





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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: cwbfromtheksvi]
    #4138438 - 05/05/05 05:37 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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cwbfromtheksvi said:
look like pan. antrillium to me. I dont see any blueing in any of those photos. Actually now that I look at the 1st and fourth photo fullsized, Im fairly certian they are antrillium.




I agree with CWBfromtheksvi.

Antrillium. Why? Copes never get as big as the one in that kids mouth. Also, that is black not blue. Copes are distinctly blue.


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: NariusFractal]
    #4138510 - 05/05/05 05:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You all make great points.

The only thing keeping me from dismissing them as pan ants is this:

Last year on the same island, different pasture (cow that time) we picked many mushrooms that looked just like these. I came to shroomery's forums just like now and posted information and everyone said they were pan ants. I mean everyone just like this time.

I admit last time they didn't blue much either.

The thing is, someone who ate them and his friends all had great and very strong trips from them.

Also, the place we picked at isn't a random pasture we stumbled across. All the rasta folk also pick there (in the horse sh**).

After we run some 'tests' on saturday I can tell you if these are active or not.

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All Copelandia and Panaeolus caps become cracked caps with age. Apparently you have not read the descriptions of Copelandia cyanescens posted here in the Shreooery's Ultimate Shroom Guide..

As for all white caps. That too is bs. Caps start out a yellowish to brown to black from spores on many caps.




I've read everything I could get my hands on about them. I've read the guide and your site from front to back a few months ago. (BTW if you want to use any pictures I posted, or have any requests for your site I'd be happy) I've forgotten a lot though, so my apologies.

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If your in USVI goto Tortolla and ask around I'm sure someone will point in the right direction...from what I know about the island of St.Thomas there are plenty of cubes growing there...have fun lucky fuckers




Yeah I've heard about all the cubes over there. And we are planning a trip to tortola ^^


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
    #4138567 - 05/05/05 06:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I don't want to seem too out there, but what are the chances this is a new/different strain?


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Re: Copes in the islands (pictures) [Re: samueljackson]
    #4138627 - 05/05/05 06:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Pan. Antrillium not doubt about it, as much as you want them to be copes they just are not.

I find antrillium just like the ones in your pictures in great abundance around here I wish they were active too but they just not.

I wouldnt eat them if I were you they are not toxic but eating a good amount will probably get you sick.


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