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Pinning
    #4131820 - 05/04/05 11:30 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hi all, first timer here. I've a problem with getting casings to pin. I think I've been doing everything right, but as I have gotten no results I thought I'd run it by the experts. Here's the scoop: B+, Equadorian, and Golden Teacher are the strains in question. All three spawned (using mycelium taken from a PF cake) onto cracked corn in pint jars, incubated at 86oF (+/- 2oF). Colonization times were under a week for all three strains. Cased w/ a bottom layer of verm and a top layer of 50/50 verm/peat w/ limestone flour added. Pre-pinning took about 4 days in the same incubator as the colonization run. Casings were cold-shocked (fridge) for 24 hours, and placed in the fruiting chamber, with a temp of 70oF and RH at around 75% (a little low, but I'm working on it). The casings have sat in the fruiting chamber for 9 days and nothing identifiable as a pin has emerged. Instead, it appears that the casing is still being colonized. I'm worried this is stroma/overlay, but I don't want to screw around with it if this is (fairly) normal. Any advice? I've been through a lot of grow-logs and have searched the forum, but I'm hesitant to do anything until I'm sure what's going on. Any help would be much appreciated.


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Re: Pinning [Re: startmeup]
    #4131864 - 05/04/05 11:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

what are your lighting cycles?


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Re: Pinning [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4131882 - 05/04/05 11:50 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Dammit, I read that thing four times and I KNEW i'd forget something. The fruiting chamber is an opaque-sided rubbermaid container with a plexi lid. The light it gets is whatever finds it's way through my living room windows and through the plexi. When I'm home, I turn on the overhead lights as well. They probably end up being in the dark for about 8 hours at night, with 16 hours of variable-intensity light, both artificial and natural.


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Re: Pinning [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4131892 - 05/04/05 11:53 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Its only been 9 days Ive had casings take 3 weeks before pinning, I have had success in stoping misting until I see pins and then lightly mist several times a day, you also need to fix that humidity problem it needs to be 80- 90% I usually have 90 running in my chambers, light is very unimportant here I just have my chambers next to window they do just fine free light no timer needed


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Re: Pinning [Re: startmeup]
    #4131894 - 05/04/05 11:53 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

u want them to have a steadier light cylcle with not so many varying types of light, put a lamp over them 12 hours a day until u see the pins, once it pins onlyt put the light on for 1 hour a day


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Re: Pinning [Re: djsage420]
    #4131897 - 05/04/05 11:54 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Fanning????


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Re: Pinning [Re: abaccusx]
    #4131903 - 05/04/05 11:56 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i think air exchange and lighting are the things in question


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Re: Pinning [Re: abaccusx]
    #4131905 - 05/04/05 11:56 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yes fan at least twice a day, light is not important to shroom development its one of the least important variable in growing shrooms.


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Re: Pinning [Re: djsage420]
    #4131908 - 05/04/05 11:57 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yes i kno that thats why i only use 1 hour a day when fruiting but to induce pinning u should have about 12 hours a day


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Lil' Wyte, Three Six Mafia, Project Pat will bring it to ya door if theres ana on ya chest.
THE PATRIOT ACT MAY BE THE DOOM OF US ALL! THEY CAN GET THINGS LIKE YOUR MEDICAL/LEGAL RECORDS, YOUR INTERNET HISTORY, YOUR GOOGLE SEARCH INFORMATION, ALL WITHOUT PROBABLE CAUSE OR A WARRANT! ALSO NO ONE CAN LEGALLY TELL YOU. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE, THIS ISN'T EXACTLY A FREE COUNTRY ANYMORE NOW IS IT? THEY ARE DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY SO THEY CAN GET RICHER! THE WAR IN IRAQ ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING! HELP GET THE CONSERVATIVE RIGHT WING-NUTS OUT OF POWER, MAKE AN EDUCATED VOTE!


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Re: Pinning [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4131931 - 05/04/05 12:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I use a cool mist humidifier, and it's attached to the chamber w/ a garden hose (about 1.5 feet long). I was under the impression that this would take care of the air exchange. I open it up and fan it for 30 seconds or so once a day. Should I do this more often, even with the humidifier?

Even at its highest setting the humidifier only gets the chamber to 75% RH. Will perlite augment this adequately? Should I look into getting a different humidifier? (i'm using this one: http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=...asin=B0006GQAOS )


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Re: Pinning [Re: startmeup]
    #4131955 - 05/04/05 12:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ive never used a humidifier I use a layer of pearlite soaked in water under my tray I have problems with too much humidity if I dont fan everyday I have found most success out of just simplifying everything.


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