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Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds
    #4129183 - 05/03/05 08:56 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Coffee grinds and the chunky coir, spawned with rye berries.
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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4129290 - 05/03/05 09:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Are the little black dots pins? I've only grown phoenix, pinks and blues but those black dots don't look like oysters to me. Nice oysters none the less. Are you going to remove it from the can? I imagine you'd get a higher yield if you did.


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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4131592 - 05/04/05 09:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

might it be unwise to eat fruits grown from an aluminum can?


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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: debianlinux]
    #4131831 - 05/04/05 11:33 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

debian, I'm pretty sure coffee cans are either plastic or steel. leave one in the outdoors and it will eventually rust. Aluminum cans would be far too expensive to use as a packaging material. I'm with you though, I wouldn't want to grow in aluminum either.


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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: Mobius_Strip]
    #4132763 - 05/04/05 03:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)


I understand about thinking the black dots are a contaminant.  I sent a culture of this strain to someone last year, and he promptly tossed it out on arrival, thinking it was pin-spot.
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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4132831 - 05/04/05 03:32 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

aluminum is seriously bad for you. considering the capacity of mushrooms to collect and concentrate metals I'd say it is unwise to do so. I've heard many reports of aluminum pie pans being dissolved by aggressive mycelium. where do you propose that metal went?


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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: debianlinux]
    #4136758 - 05/05/05 10:29 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder if anyone has access to a lab where they could test some fruits for the presence of aluminum? I know the mycelium will metabolize soil contaminants such as pcb's and oil without transferring them to the fruitbodies, but I don't know about aluminum. Anybody have access to a gas chromatograph?
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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4137064 - 05/05/05 12:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

aluminum is an element and therefore cannot be broken down any further.


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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: debianlinux]
    #4137776 - 05/05/05 03:17 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

There has been research on aluminum and last I heard they were still trying to find the connection between aluminum and Alzheimer's. From what I remember they found that individuals with Alzheimer's had much higher than normal aluminum levels in their brain tissue. The connection is unknown but there are some theories: These aren't empiricle studies but informative nonetheless>
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_216a.html
http://www.laleva.cc/environment/aluminium_alzheimer2.html
http://www.rense.com/general37/alum.htm
http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/diseases/alzheime.html

I threw away my aluminum cookware years ago for this very reason.


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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: debianlinux]
    #4140808 - 05/06/05 05:37 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting. Bear in mind, these oysters are in a steel coffee can. Here's an update 48 hours or so after the above pictures.
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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4141821 - 05/06/05 12:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Beautiful oysters man. I'll have to try that strain next go round. Where did you get the spores?


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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: Mobius_Strip]
    #4142109 - 05/06/05 01:49 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It's not from spores. I got the culture from Stamets.
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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4142645 - 05/06/05 04:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Damn, foiled again!


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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4150674 - 05/08/05 06:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

A few pre-harvest pictures.
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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #17869090 - 02/26/13 03:16 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Hi RR,

To what extent can one use coffee grind to supplement cultivation of Oyster mushrooms?  I'm setting up an indoor grow room in NYC (first of its kind) and my boss would like to use as much coffee grind as possible. Thoughts?

To elaborate more: We're probably going for 3' logs double stacked (one on top of the other) in rows. 

Thanks,
Josh


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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: joshua.wqb]
    #17876182 - 02/27/13 07:34 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: CMOS]
    #17878471 - 02/28/13 04:10 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Well it's pretty cool tho. I can't wait till my pearl oyster recycycle box thingy starts a-bloomin


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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: joshua.wqb]
    #17878765 - 02/28/13 07:02 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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Hi RR,

To what extent can one use coffee grind to supplement cultivation of Oyster mushrooms?  I'm setting up an indoor grow room in NYC (first of its kind) and my boss would like to use as much coffee grind as possible. Thoughts?

To elaborate more: We're probably going for 3' logs double stacked (one on top of the other) in rows. 

Thanks,
Josh




With straw logs, I wouldn't use coffee.  The reason is they'll migrate to the edges where contaminant spores will land on the coffee grinds and germinate.  If you're going to use the free coffee that's available, use spawn bags and mix with sawdust or shredded straw and then sterilize.

One more thing about straw logs:  Don't stack them.  The interface where they're touching will mold.
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Re: Abalone Oysters on Coffee Grinds [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #17879637 - 02/28/13 01:10 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

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With straw logs, I wouldn't use coffee.  The reason is they'll migrate to the edges where contaminant spores will land on the coffee grinds and germinate.  If you're going to use the free coffee that's available, use spawn bags and mix with sawdust or shredded straw and then sterilize.

One more thing about straw logs:  Don't stack them.  The interface where they're touching will mold.
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Hmm, yea that makes sense. Not sure but we may just try both, straw log grows and smaller spawn bag grows, and see which fits the bill better.

In terms of stacking, I meant hanging 3' logs in rows, one on top of the other, but not touching(We have a 7'4" clearance).  The spawn bag cultivation (smaller style cultivation) sounds more like the direction we need to explore..I'll run it by my co-workers this week and see what they think.

Thanks again!

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