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Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub???
    #4127510 - 05/03/05 01:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

When using a 55 gallon tub if someone was going to have a 5 in. thick substrate layer how many quart size jars would be needed to spawn. When looking for heavy yields?


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: unknown28]
    #4127527 - 05/03/05 01:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

the first thing that you would need to think about would be to figure out how much substrate you were going to use,
then you could calculate how much spawn you would need.

you do realize that spawning means to mix a smaller amount (25%) of colonized spawn (wbs brf rye)with a larger amount of pasteurized substrate.... right?

dimensions might help people give you a better estimate, especially if you would like to measure substrate to be at a 5 in. depth


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: unknown28]
    #4127529 - 05/03/05 01:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

a lot


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: SoK]
    #4127538 - 05/03/05 01:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

if you wanted to spawn something that size, you'd need a high spawn ratio (lots and lots of spawn) and prob about 25 large mycobags full o shit... but i would guess it would contam


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: SoK]
    #4127574 - 05/03/05 02:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Well the container would be standard rubbermaid container and would have about 20lbs of horsepoo/straw mix. A goal would be of 5lbs dry mushies.


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: unknown28]
    #4127578 - 05/03/05 02:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You will need spawn at least equal to 1/4 (+) the volume of the substrate. I would suggest using smaller trays. If something goes wrong with a huge tub, the whole thing goes bad.

Using 12 or 16 quart trays gives you better control of the grow.


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: unknown28]
    #4127584 - 05/03/05 02:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

well i would use at lest 12 qt jars more spawn = faster colenized substraight = less chance of contams


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: agar]
    #4127585 - 05/03/05 02:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If to use 20lbs of Tennesse Studs prepasturized mix could you store an open package or have to use it all at once?


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: unknown28]
    #4127594 - 05/03/05 02:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

use it all at once and i dont think that 20lbs is enough for a 55gallon tub at 6" deep

order a few hundred pounds of the substraight and get a 10 or 55gallon tubs going


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: unknown28]
    #4127621 - 05/03/05 02:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Get your SPAWN going. See if you can master that, then worry about ratio's, substrates & casing covers. For substrate, try to find FREE weathered h/poo.


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: agar]
    #4127636 - 05/03/05 02:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah theres plenty of healthy spawn going. And have access to weathered h/poo but It seems like it would be too smelly pasturizing it. And I cant think of a way it pasturize large amounts when all you have is a stove top. Wouldn't want to use the oven, plan on cooking in it later


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: unknown28]
    #4127642 - 05/03/05 02:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

How about rocking some straw??

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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: unknown28]
    #4127643 - 05/03/05 02:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

you need to get a 55gallon drum and put that over a fire pit and use that to pasturize the people in the parking lot of your suburben apt will just think that your homeless


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: onetime]
    #4127649 - 05/03/05 02:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yeah straw is a million times cheaper than that pre pasturized poop and almost as good and it has a sweat smell when its paturizeing


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: Sammy]
    #4127650 - 05/03/05 02:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Does straw pasturize the same way as manure? And does it give off about the same yields? Wanna take a step up from casing


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: unknown28]
    #4127655 - 05/03/05 02:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yes it has awsome yeilds and all you do is cook it for and hr or so at 170F in a big pot or pressure cooker with the lid off


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: unknown28]
    #4127666 - 05/03/05 02:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

unknown82469 said:
Does straw pasturize the same way as manure? And does it give off about the same yields? Wanna take a step up from casing




you'll still be casing, just a bulk substrate this go


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: onetime]
    #4127687 - 05/03/05 02:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

there's a couple/few members around that have used straw for some time, and are recently converting to H :poop:
this is no coincidence; h poo is very resistant to contaminants, and will yield you more potent mushrooms.
join the revolution! viva la :poop:


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: SoK]
    #4127695 - 05/03/05 02:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

A 55 gal drum filled 5" isnt that much substrate, mabey 5 gal, so you only need 4-5 qts. It would be just like doing a rubbermaid tub but much, much taller. This height will cause problems when it comes to harvest, inspecting and just general axcess to the casing.


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Re: Bulk With 55 Gallon Tub??? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #4127703 - 05/03/05 02:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

no the drum is for the pasturizeing of the straw the 55gal tub is what he is useing and 6" in that should be fine


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