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InvisibleMcMan
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    #412421 - 10/03/01 01:43 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: McMan]
    #412427 - 10/03/01 01:52 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, that was basically a long, "I know you do not like me anymore, but please buy my bucket anyway" post.

You brought all this on yourself little man. Egomaniacal people like you and ****** always seem so surprized when they get caught in their lies.





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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: McMan]
    #412451 - 10/03/01 02:14 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

You will be missed MCMAN.
And ANNO was not hiding the fact that he sold cultures!!
Now he does not!!! No more threat to himself from the USA!!!

I hope everyone is happy with the outcome here, no more McInformation, no more cultures, but hey still plenty of misinformation!!!!!



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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: McMan]
    #412476 - 10/03/01 02:52 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Since McMan sells a product that noone else in the Shroomery "club" sells, I don't see how he thinks that any of the Vendors are threatened by his business or why its too much for some to handle. Remember that Ralphster is the spore seller and he isn't being accused of any wrong doing. (I don't personally like Ralphster but I can still support his business). McMan is just blowing smoke so he sounds like the victim.

As for the accusation that the Shroomery only has room for established vendors and they make it hard for outsiders to feel welcome is total BS. I wonder if Una at Mushmush has anything to say about that. He is a very recent vendor that gets nothing but praise. There is plenty of room for decent vendors and McMan could have been one.

He brought this all on himself. He can say its professional jealousy and that all the vendors are out to get him because his product is sooo good. But the reality is he violated the trust of the Shroomery and the OMC. It may seem like everyone is suddenly turning on McMan, but this has been building for a long time. If anything, he was protected with silence time after time after sending questionable PM's and emails. His actions show a well established pattern of abuse and disregard for the OMC and I don't think it should be tolerated. Popular vendors at the Shroomery are not just those that provided good products, but also involved and TRUSTED members of the OMC.

Posting and advertising here isn't a right but a privilege. I am sure McMan will do well using High Times and other means of advertising to sell his wares. The Shroomery isn't the whole world but its a part we can at least try to keep above board.

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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: Workman]
    #412480 - 10/03/01 02:54 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: ralphster44]
    #412488 - 10/03/01 02:58 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I think thats possible. I find it hard to stay angry very long.

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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: Workman]
    #412499 - 10/03/01 03:10 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: McMan]
    #412510 - 10/03/01 03:21 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Awwwww.... Poor McMan... Why are these people being SO MEAN to you?

OH YEA! THAT'S RIGHT! You threatened to narc out another vendor. And offered money to have all of Ryche's posts removed. And threatened psilocyber. How silly of me to have forgotten about that.

That's right McMan, you're the victim here. Poor poor poor McMan...

Your smoke screen has failed once again! Maybe instead of trying to cover your ass, you should have never threatened people in the first place?

As for your comment about people wanting to buy your product because they intend to use it, I WOULD NEVER EVER EVER WANT MY ADDRESS IN THE HANDS OF SOMEBODY WHO THREATENED TO NARC OUT AN OTHER VENDOR. (PERIOD)

Your business practices are very unethical, and your morals are virtually non-existent.

How dare you try and play the victim here, when ANNO is the victim of your threats.

Question for ya: If you DIDN'T threaten Anno, then why is he no longer selling ANYTHING (not even spores) to the US? Do you think he would intentionally harm his business just to make you look bad? OF COURSE NOT! That's because you threatened him and RUINED IT FOR EVERYBODY IN THE USA.

GOOD WORK MCMAN!

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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: McMan]
    #412511 - 10/03/01 03:22 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

So again you try to blame this on me. Blowing smoke is not going to work, you explained your actions for that email in a PM to me, if you want I can post it to show exactly what you said, that PM you don't deny the email, you explained why you did it in fact.

Try to play the sympathy card, how sad we all are and that how could we do this to you. Try looking hard at yourself mcman, do you remember offereing me loads of $$$ to do something bad against Ryche??

I read that email, it definately sounds like you, and it did originate from you... So as far as I'm concerned it is you who did threaten him, considering how important you place safety its very ironic you threatened narcing on another vendor to as you said "get them the FUCK off my back!!!"

I hope you do well with your pod, ironcly thats something you'll never understand, I don't want your business to fail, I don't want you to be hurt by this, I definately don't want Ralph hurt by this.... But instead of admiting to the doctored photos, and to apologize for threatening anno and sporeworks, you instead deny and try to blow smoke..... Thats what upsets everyone, you can't even admit whats obvious, instead you play these games.

I think its best for all concerned if you do leave, we all want to move on and get on with our lives, I hate to see this shit going down, but ironicly everytime something bad happens I usually see mcman/nushroom tied to it.

I can forgive and forget, but I am not going to tolerate threatening others as a way to behave. Don't try to blame this one me for becoming public, Anno brought this up to all of us, not one moderator would have posted your email, nor brought it up in forums....

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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: Workman]
    #412540 - 10/03/01 03:48 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I think Workman needs to run for Mayor <img src="https://files.shroomery.org/smileys/smile.gif">.
I could not have said it any better. I 100% support Workmans statement on the above.
Its McMans  actions againts some of the vendors here and the admins of the shroomery that brought this on, he IS NOT the victum here.
There is a lot more going on with McMan behind the scenes with his actions and threats in emails and pm's here. Not to mention a lot of aggrevation he has brought many of us with his behavior in threads here. Many of which are deleted later.
I know the admins and many of us vendors here are just tired of his wrecless behavior and we just want him removed from The Shroomery. There are plenty of other places  within the OMC that he still has a 2nd chance and can still sell his product. That is not our immediate concern, its up to those admins and members to deal with McMan and his actions. I for one am glad McMan and Ralphster have their banner on the high times website because it takes business away from a big scammer we are all aware of Spore Trading Post (STP).

I for one am just appauled to find out about his police email threat to Anno. Now that is a wreckless business practice McMan.
I'm also very pissed off about McMan offering money to Thor to have all my posts deleted. That would have caused me a lot of pain and waisted time because I do use those threads for reference a lot. I hate retyping things over and over. There are some other things in the past McMan has done here to cause me a lot of aggrevation and waisted energy because it was so negative. I could go into detail of many of these things but I dont have the time right now.

Granted, McMan has been helpful to many around here, but at what cost to all those he has caused a lot grief too?

As to Teonan's statement about McInformation and now we have plenty of misinformation with McMan being gone. I'd like to point you to http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=369888&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&part=]this McMisinformation thread. I wish I had spent more time around here lately to see what else he has been posting wrong. And yes, we all make mistakes as aspireing ametuer mycologist, but at least fix something when your called out on it instead of trying to make up new phrases like your somebody real important. Ok, this is off topic.

My vote is to have McMan banned from the shroomery. He causes way more trouble then he's worth and I'm personally sick of his bs. Maybe one day he will change his ways but I dont trust the guy as far as I can throw him. I can not say that about any other member here at the shroomery that I have seen lately.







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InvisibleOzone
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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: McMan]
    #412586 - 10/03/01 04:23 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I remember this before. McMan has left once, this makes the 2'nd time.

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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: McMan]
    #412591 - 10/03/01 04:28 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Quotes from Mcman: "There is only enough room here in the shroomery market for the established vendors and you guys make it terribly hard for an outsider to feel welcomed here in this community where, of all places, should represent love and kindness, imo. You would think that this was blow.com or something by the tremendously welcoming vibe around here."

With all your shortcomings and shadiness, how can you sit there and say "love and kindness"? *cough* BULLSHIT

"Now, you guys would like me to admit to threatening Anno with the po_lice, is that correct? Or, would you rather me defend myself or my reputation here publicly?
I am not going to give you guys the honor of doing either."

A few paragraphs later: "I am not a dangerous individual and I practice extra safe business and that is the bottom line here. Let it be known that I am not this desperate to sell pods as to be brought down by any bs pertaining to po_lice threats and the like, this is where I draw the line. "

Another: "but I NEVER sent the po_lice threat to anno, just as I said when I was approached PROPERLY by the shroomery authorities."

Is this or is this not defending yourself. You are a walking contradiction with a bad habit of not knowing what the hell you are trying to say. I think you might have a slight temper problem also. If you feel like reading my other posts where I called you an asshole or whatever be my guest. I never claimed to be anything but an Major Asshole, see my TITLE.

I think all this is bullshit myself, but I can't just sit here and look at it without saying a word.

For one, I would like to know which MODERATOR INFORMED Mcman of the post in the Mod Forum. Whoever that was should be tossed in my opinion. Some of the Mods here have no class and indeed need help or be gone with you.

If the Mod that said this doesn't not want to speak, please feel free to pm me or email me...pkeffect@netscape.net

As I and alot of other people know (I am not immune) there alot of immature and petty things go on here. After this is all said and done, you will not see many posts here by me nor at Florest Floor because I for one don't ask questions about these things to forums. I have more than enough information doing my own research and talking to people than to sit and ask the same fucking questions over and over because I am too lazy to do my own digging. Not to say I won't be around because for all the shit here this place is full of good information.

With that said, I would like to state that I am glad to see Mcman moving along. I hope Ralph will continue to be a prominent figure here and I hope NuSroom will stop being a prick and quit defending everyone but himself. (No offense NuShroom but you do.)

Take care...

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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: Ozone]
    #412597 - 10/03/01 04:38 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Also, I really don't think McMan does these things with a game plan. I have seen others act this way in life and in my years on the net. I really think its more a split type personality in a mild form. One minute your loving the community and the next you are attacking someone (and McMan was very intellectual and hard to argue with). I think he is correct about one thing and that's the root to his problem; paranoia yes indeed.

I really do think McMan is very smart, most creative and artistic people have drawbacks. Hemmingway, Poe, to name a few. I am not trying to go off subject here, just pointing out that its not pre-planned in all of its nature.

One last thing, the more laid back a vendor is and neutral in arguments, the more respect they get. So its great to speak on this but if I was a vendor, I would add my comments and then worry about my own business.

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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: McMan]
    #412658 - 10/03/01 06:01 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Anno, of course you will be selling edible cultures right?
that would really really suck if you didnt....but i know you ROCK, so you still are going to sell edibles right? ....(u.s)


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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: 40oz]
    #412680 - 10/03/01 06:23 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

>Anno, of course you will be selling edible cultures right?
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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: ralphster44]
    #412690 - 10/03/01 06:36 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

ralphster... I remember you aying that there are two ralphsters. One Ralphster who holds FSR, and the other one who is vendor.
But isnt the vendor ralphster same one as mcman vendor?
I mean if you can separate all those things, I guess using that logic you are.
Anyway
/me pukes on very word you say

And I guess it is not a coincidence that ralph and mcman work together, at least not to me.

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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: Ozone]
    #412851 - 10/03/01 09:31 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Good riddance, lets hope he keeps his word this time.

Please don't insult Hemmingway and Poe by comparing mcspam to them. The only thing they have in common is taking a dump in the morning.



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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #412965 - 10/03/01 10:44 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with everything you said in that linked post Ryche!!!!
I too have had discussions with McMan about information I did not agree with. But the guy was pretty smart about environmental stimuli, directly related to his commercial experience. I still believe using a pure strain from a known fruiter is the best way to go, even with cubensis. But for all practical purposes it is not NECESSARY, and your results speak a thousand fold about that.
I do think the misinformation to information ratio goes up a little when the guy leaves, he had his moments of clarity, and his moments of confusion. Don't we all!!! I just hate seeing people leave here, but I certainly am not Priveledged to all the behind the scenes activity that goes on here, so I am sorry if I am uninformed. I still am gonna miss the guy. I liked the discussions I had with him. He certainly never caused me any problems!!!!
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Re: McMan's threatening presence to the omc... [Re: Ryche Hawk]
    #413386 - 10/04/01 08:33 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Well I'd just like to thanks McMann from preventing Anno from being able to send stuff to the USA. He's sure done everyone a big favor.

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