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Re: Selection of "Psilocybe atlantis" [Re: Workman]
#4126546 - 05/03/05 03:15 AM (18 years, 8 months ago) |
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Workman said: It quickly forms sclerotia on grass seed invitro
Faster than mex A? any word on potency yet?
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Re: Selection of "Psilocybe atlantis" [Re: Workman]
#4320913 - 06/21/05 01:58 PM (18 years, 7 months ago) |
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How does sclerotia formation compare to mexicana A. Faster? Higher yield? or is it still to early to say...
It looks very different from the mexicana sclerotia, more like a vegetable like a potato
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Re: Selection of "Psilocybe atlantis" [Re: EonTan]
#4354206 - 06/30/05 02:47 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Very interesting, nice table. The other item of note is that most people find that large sclerotia is more potent than smaller ones (anecdotal?). So the actual yeild of active substances may be more even though the weight is small in #7. Have you any way of testing psilocybin/psilocin levels?
Harvesting sclerotia is a real pain, so the bigger the better. Sclerotia forming throughout is a real bonus, if you are going to bother growing it, it may as well be in as big a jar as you can find or in a/c bags which you can just pile into a big incubator. Have you any theories on the glass interface occurence? Do you think adding glass or thin plastic discs to a large jar of mexicana sclerotia would induce more sclerotia?
My big unanswered question is do you think adding water during a sclerotia grow will help? I find the spent grains extremely dry when harvesting and feel that the sclerotia may have grown more if it had water to make the nutrients available to it. It seems to make sense that it should have additional water throughout the grow, just like normal mushrooms. Cased mexicana grows have added water and sclerotia is reported as fast growing. If a sclerotia bag is ready to harvest I cannot see the harm in dunking it over night and leaving it a few weeks more. But I think it may be more beneficial to add water slowly through the grow just like normal shrooms get.
What temps are these growing at? my ideal strain would grow big potent sclerotia throughout a substrate at 20C.
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Re: Selection of "Psilocybe atlantis" [Re: Workman]
#4500179 - 08/05/05 01:35 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Excellent. Has anybody tested them for potency yet, not analytical testing, just guaging from effects? e.g. a comparison to cubes.
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Re: Selection of "Psilocybe atlantis" [Re: ShroomOmatic]
#4569807 - 08/23/05 08:21 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a atlantis LC growing at the moment. Lots of growth now, it is almost 5 days since innoc. Unfiltered honey water to about 2% max. Lots of honey proteins are in the bottom of the jar so it is hard to say when first growth occured, they seem to like the proteins. Used 1/2cc in a 500ml LC. I did not shake after injection which I think helps as the germinating spores will find a mate close by.
I am preparing substrates at the moment. I have 1.25kg of dry wheat. I am also trying a wheat flour and water mix, with some coffee, honey and lime in it. I will also try some whole brown rice.
Any other substrate recipies will be most welcome.
I am also going to try adding additional sterile water during the wheat grow, anybody who has grown sclerotia will have seen the over dry grains upon harvest, I feel that nutrients could be left in those grains, adding water may make those nutrients available.
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