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It gets harder each time
    #4122954 - 05/02/05 01:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Ive taken mushrooms a lot of times, a couple trips were so strong I was semi concious at points and unable to do much at all.  No idea what reality was, or time, or who I was for those phases.  These trips were amazing at the same time, but equally frightening and the body discomfort was very hard to deal with, quite painfull in fact.

Since these strong trips I cant seem to enjoy the mush as much anymore, the trips will still be nice, but I cant stop thinking about the scarier moments and dark feelings ive experienced.  During the come ups I'm now extremely nervous  :confused:  Unlike the first trip for me which was probably the most enjoyable, even though not the strongest by far.

I would like to be able to experience strong trips again, I just dont know though,  The anxiety(especially when I realise 10 mins after consumption that its going to be another epic mindfuck) and body discomfort just seem not worth it. 

I dont know if anyone can relate to this, well I know all of you have experienced it but did you ever find it this bad?  Were you able to overcome it?


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: MovingTarget]
    #4123042 - 05/02/05 01:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Take a lower dose.

I think you'll find what you're looking for if you take a bit less than what you normally take.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4123184 - 05/02/05 02:03 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You sound like me... after a few really hard trips on shrooms the experience tends to have a lot of anxiety and a rough comeup, and I don't take them very often anymore.

But if you are like me you should, if you haven't already, explore the cosmic world of LSD. LSD has shown me so much more than mushrooms did, and it's a much smoother and more controllable ride.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4123188 - 05/02/05 02:04 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I seem to be really sensitive to psilocin.... I hope in the future I'll be able to enjoy stronger trips more.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: bluedolphin]
    #4123200 - 05/02/05 02:08 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

LSD is hard to find round here.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: MovingTarget]
    #4123231 - 05/02/05 02:14 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I can find LSD, but I am worried about trying it, I hear more about bad acid trips than bad shroom trips. Thoughts?


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: SWEDEN]
    #4123280 - 05/02/05 02:27 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Go for it.

You'll regret it later if you don't.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: SWEDEN]
    #4123281 - 05/02/05 02:27 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I've never tried it either, all the people I know who have tried both say that acid is less of a headfuck. But Ive heard it can somehow fuck you up more in the longterm? I really have no idea what to believe.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: MovingTarget]
    #4123427 - 05/02/05 03:07 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

In my experience (dozens of times with lsd and psilocybin) I would say that LSD is much harsher and nowhere near as clean and pure and good as mushrooms. LSD is much more of a "headfuck".

Work with smaller doses. You will find the lower doses can be as much, if not more, insightful than larger doses.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: myndreach]
    #4123953 - 05/02/05 05:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

YMMV... In my experience, LSD is a LOT less of a mindfuck than shrooms.

I always find that I have a mental clarity on LSD which is why I don't smoke pot during the peak; only on the comedown to get back up. It's very much like mescaline.. things that are already there will warp, lots of colors, etc. Unlike the time on shrooms you saw tentacles come out of the ceiling and wrap around your body and it felt like you couldn't breathe. Don't get me wrong, high enough of a dose and you'll be consumed in OEVs.


I had a bad experience with mushrooms and I didn't do them for ~1 year. I had a snowflake pattern stuck in my vision and thought either a) my friend had slipped contacts in my eyes b) that my eyes were permanently damaged or c) scratching at my eyes to remove aforementioned contacts damaged them forever. Bad trip ensued, thought loops, etc. I let my head get the better of myself.


I dosed them again a few weeks ago and they kicked my mental state back into shape. It actually took a strong shroom trip to help get me off these horrid anti-anxiety meds that are slowly eating my life (and memory) away.


Shrooms will let you know when it's time to stop. Doesn't mean its a permanent thing. I thought I'd never be able to eat them again, but they found me, and treated me well.

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(especially when I realise 10 mins after consumption that its going to be another epic mindfuck)




Mistake #1. Setting yourself up for a bad trip.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: Adden]
    #4124096 - 05/02/05 06:23 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I felt a month ago that I wouldnt be able to shroom again, and this was some time after my last big trip, but now I definetly feel myself being drawn back to the psilocinning.

'Mistake #1. Setting yourself up for a bad trip'

I couldnt help that, before I dosed I was confident, its only after 10 mins when I know that I'm going to loose my mind very soon that the anxiety sets in. Its a mixture of the memory of being totally lost and confused etc and the body discomfort. My plan now is to gradually build up again to normal doses.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: Adden]
    #4124108 - 05/02/05 06:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"Unlike the time on shrooms you saw tentacles come out of the ceiling and wrap around your body and it felt like you couldn't breathe. Don't get me wrong, high enough of a dose and you'll be consumed in OEVs.
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Are you talking about a post I made a few months ago? Where I had a trip that this happened, well I wasnt actually considering this trip as one of the biggies hehe. although it was intense


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: Adden]
    #4124161 - 05/02/05 06:33 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

s2dope said:
YMMV... In my experience, LSD is a LOT less of a mindfuck than shrooms.






I concur.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: RainbowDrops]
    #4124175 - 05/02/05 06:35 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

For me it seems like w/ mushrooms I have these nonstop & quick thought patterns just rushing at me. W/ acid I was more focused w/ visuals & emotion, though mushrooms can be very emotional. W/ acid, though, it seemed to be more positive emotion while mushies were all over the map. That's just me though.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: MovingTarget]
    #4124189 - 05/02/05 06:37 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Wow that's real weird man, I had a trip like that and use it casually as a reference for the difference between shrooms/LSD visuals & trips...


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: Adden]
    #4124228 - 05/02/05 06:45 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I was seeing tentacle patterns in thin air for days after that trip.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: MovingTarget]
    #4124232 - 05/02/05 06:46 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Good times!!


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: Adden]
    #4124238 - 05/02/05 06:48 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

crazy times :laugh:


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: MovingTarget]
    #4124250 - 05/02/05 06:51 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Something I forgot to mention, and this works well for my friend, is just enjoying the mushroom by itself. Smoke on the comedown..

It's really easy to lose control mixing, which I learned the hard way my last trip. Didn't go bad, but wasn't manageable.. and could have turned out a lot more positive rather than a strong kick in the ass.


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Re: It gets harder each time [Re: Adden]
    #4126082 - 05/03/05 01:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I know exactly what you mean about hte anxiety of coming up. It seems that I forget how it is to be beshroomed and as soom as i get hte first waves of it Im thinking "oh fuck kyle, why did you do this again?". I go into with the greatest confidence but then without fail Ill get that feeling. On some of my more recent lower dose trips, it is much less and I can get around it, but always that uncomfortable feeling. I dont really have any advice for you excpet for that im going to keep at it, whether or not thats a good idea or not. Good luck to you and I hope it eventually gets back to that of your first trip.


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