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shrooms on one side, mold on the other
    #4122802 - 05/02/05 12:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I know the conventional wisdom (that is, common sense) tells us that if there is any non-mycellium growth on any part of the cake, don't eat the mushrooms--YOU'LL DIE!!! But is this like the old strychnine-in-the-acid story that everybody knows but isn't true? Does anyone have any hard facts on how a foreign growth really affects the chemistry of the mushrooms?

One of my cased cakes is going bananas right now, and I just noticed there is a small black growth on the myc. at the edge of the pan.


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Re: shrooms on one side, mold on the other [Re: dicktar2000]
    #4122831 - 05/02/05 12:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

There are several different contams that might infest your mycelium.  Several of these are highly toxic.  NONE of them are "safe" to consume.

Check out the contamination FAQ in the sticky thread in the contam forum, or better yet, RTFM (see sig)  :grin:


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Re: shrooms on one side, mold on the other [Re: dicktar2000]
    #4122840 - 05/02/05 12:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm a newb and don't know too much, but this is what I have learned.

If there is a contamination that is releasing harmful toxins, the mycellium network will carry this toxin; thus making the mushrooms bad.

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Re: shrooms on one side, mold on the other [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4122855 - 05/02/05 12:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23418
Contam FAQ.

A good read, actually.


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Re: shrooms on one side, mold on the other [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4122875 - 05/02/05 12:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: shrooms on one side, mold on the other [Re: Tien]
    #4122878 - 05/02/05 12:40 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

nicely put Plutonium , The black you see is probably a patch of botulism. It will kill you, or make you very, very sick. A friend of mine once ate  a rice cake which was covered with bluish bruising, but one of those was a grayish black spot, he just pinched that piece off and ate the rest with some sunny delight. Later after he returned from the hospital from food poisoning, he decided to not trust just pinching off what you see. The mold, had in fact invaded the whole cake, the part he seen was just the "flowering part" of the mold. When in doubt, toss it--it isn't worth it.  :smile: bluhoney


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Re: shrooms on one side, mold on the other [Re: bluhoney]
    #4122964 - 05/02/05 01:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks, everybody.  Looks like I have the bacterial blotch, maybe  Pseudomonas gladioli, but I can't find any info on the actual effects of this. 

Why would you say it's botulism, Bluhoney? 

FYI, I just threw the cake out (and all those poor, poor mushrooms
:frown:(( but I am interested in any info on the ACTUAL effects of bacterial blotches, for future reference.


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Re: shrooms on one side, mold on the other [Re: dicktar2000]
    #4123024 - 05/02/05 01:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It is just a guess, not seeing a picture , but botulism craves an enviroment with low oxygen conditions, and low acid content. Its found in home canning. Just a guess though :smile: bluhoney


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Re: shrooms on one side, mold on the other [Re: bluhoney]
    #4123083 - 05/02/05 01:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well, I'm not trying to obstinate--better safe than sorry, to be sure. But considering the most common method of procuring shrooms is to eat them off of cow paddies after a rainstorm, I just find it a little hard to believe that a wonky cake is a matter of life and death. If any of you disagree, convince me.


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Re: shrooms on one side, mold on the other [Re: dicktar2000]
    #4123201 - 05/02/05 02:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

dicktar2000 said:
Well, I'm not trying to obstinate--better safe than sorry, to be sure. But considering the most common method of procuring shrooms is to eat them off of cow paddies after a rainstorm, I just find it a little hard to believe that a wonky cake is a matter of life and death. If any of you disagree, convince me.




I completely agree with dicktar....unless it looks like black mold, I say eat it.

I have eaten and given away plenty of mushies from green mold contaminated casings and cakes without any problems.


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