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5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes?
    #4120270 - 05/01/05 08:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Hey again! I'm sure this has been talked about before but I just couldnt find anything relating to it...so if I'm forcing someone to repeat themselves,my bad. Why not place a 5th hole in the center to allow the center of the cake to start to collonise at the same rate as the other 4 inoculation points? It just seems like the cake would colonise faster this way and be less open to contams. Thoughts?


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: trippingchef]
    #4120278 - 05/01/05 08:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Do it and tell us how it turnes out.


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4120323 - 05/01/05 08:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

YES!!!!!

i used to do this when i grew. if you notice most syringes are marked with 4 lines inbetween the numbers. which if you use just one line per hole, you would still get 1 cc into each jar.

when you do the perimeter holes, make sure the spore solution runs down the side of the glass to keep it from soaking into one small area. when you do the middle hole just stick it straight down.

i found when doing this, things went a little faster.


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: four20snakeman]
    #4120370 - 05/01/05 09:03 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I have never done it personally, but I would agree with four20snakeman.

Be sure to make a thread after you do it, get some more people doing it.

Would be nice if you would do a side-by-side comparison using the traditional 4 holes and see if one or the other finishes faster.

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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: four20snakeman]
    #4120373 - 05/01/05 09:04 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Studies show that this does reduce the colonization time. If you've got the extra juice, use it.

And like four20snakeman said, let that shit run down the side of the jar when doing the perimeter.
[edit] I should mention that the studies I refer to were done with 1pint jars, not 1/2s.


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: nunciate]
    #4120391 - 05/01/05 09:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i tried this with the last of my last batch; it wasnt enough for a whole 1/2pt jar, so i did three points around the edge and one in the middle, still using about 1cc. and just for shits i didnt use any fry verm on top.

in fact i labled it "contam test" and waited for contams to start flying in.

as it turns out the little bugger completely colonized in like 12 days, and its now spawing a couple quarts of poo as we speak...


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: nunciate]
    #4120417 - 05/01/05 09:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Studies show that this does reduce the colonization time. If you've got the extra juice, use it.




i did studies with this and yes it does go faster, maybe only a day or few. sometimes that matters though.

and the second part of that quote, you dont need any extra juice. you are still using the same 1cc per jar. like i said most syringes have 4 lines in between each number. if you inject to that line for each hole, that comes out to 5 lines per cc.


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: four20snakeman]
    #4120444 - 05/01/05 09:17 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

sounds like a good plan to me


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: trippingchef]
    #4120552 - 05/01/05 09:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yes this will just speed up colinization time. You cann inoculate a lot of stuff right next to the glass and hold the jar and an angle and you can get a better spread of spore water making original germination a lot bigger.


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: baraka]
    #4120570 - 05/01/05 09:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Yes this will just speed up colonization time.  You canny inoculate a lot of stuff right next to the glass and hold the jar and an angle and you can get a better spread of spore water making original germination a lot bigger.




Yep :thumbup:

when you are able to speed up colonization time, do so, it lessens the chance of contams getting a foothold


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: four20snakeman]
    #4120591 - 05/01/05 09:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You could just do grains :wink:


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4120625 - 05/01/05 09:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

do too many cc's and your make your cakes mushy. 2 is enough though, biggest reason to do different sides is that so the two diff mycellial cultures rizomorph or whatever the hell they do when they touch.


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: Abermelin]
    #4120698 - 05/01/05 10:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'm telling you, you only need 1cc per PF jar. Abermelin, go check your syringes and tell me if there is not 4 lines inbetween the numbers.
like this
1....2
the dots=lines

i have said most syringes because i dont know if all are like that. although every one i have is marked the same way.

when you shoot your jars, just let the edge of the plunger touch the line then shoot the next hole. if you have syringes with 4 lines in between each number you have 5 shots per jar


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: four20snakeman]
    #4120706 - 05/01/05 10:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

exactly. each line =.2mL


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: starseed1066]
    #4120804 - 05/01/05 10:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i use up to 8 holes in my lids. no contams yet. and its a lot faster!be sure to use tinfoil. you could even tape some holes after inoc, if your that worried about contam.


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: closetgrower]
    #4120814 - 05/01/05 10:27 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

if you use the top layer of dry verm you will have no issues with contams from the air after innoc.

if you happen to get contams it is most likely your PC technique, or your innoc. technique.

random spots in the cake come from improper PC'ing. if you get contams where you shoot up, that comes from either a bad syringe or bad innoc. technique


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: four20snakeman]
    #4120866 - 05/01/05 10:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Lol, Grains and tyvek OWN

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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4120924 - 05/01/05 10:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

its hard to do just one CC cause theirs always a bit of resistance when you intitally push the syringe, then it suddenly gives and before you know it theirs like 2 ccs in your jar.


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: Abermelin]
    #4120940 - 05/01/05 10:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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its hard to do just one CC cause theirs always a bit of resistance when you intitally push the syringe, then it suddenly gives and before you know it theirs like 2 ccs in your jar.


i do agree there but sitll with a steady hand u can do it


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Re: 5 holes instead of 4 for BRF cakes? [Re: Abermelin]
    #4120942 - 05/01/05 10:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

if you feel that resistance, just pull the syringe back to dislodge the piece of verm. you will know with time if your needle is clogged.


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