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Casing Newby with pinning question...
    #4120174 - 05/01/05 08:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Incubating my first casing now.

1/2" Verm
2" Multi-Spore Colonized BRF Substrate
1/2" 50/50 mix

Myc is starting to pop up in about 8 different places. Is this sufficient? There were 4 spots yesterday that I covered, and these 8 spots today I just barely covered. They are not super aggresive myc, just little whisps of it that are starting to show. Should I initiate? I'm on the 3rd day since I cased.


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: kratomboy]
    #4120178 - 05/01/05 08:39 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

you cased with staright verm? on top?


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: starseed1066]
    #4120200 - 05/01/05 08:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I'ld say on bottom, 1/2" 50/50 on top.
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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: kratomboy]
    #4120241 - 05/01/05 08:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

if its growing...werd.


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4120291 - 05/01/05 08:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Lightly patch those spots. i mean lightly. if you are using coarse verm sift it a little to get some of the finer particles. lightly sprinkle it on the spots, just a little now. then mist a little, just enough to moisten those spots. let it continue to work til you get a little more even amount of growth.


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: starseed1066]
    #4120353 - 05/01/05 09:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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you cased with staright verm? on top?




No, on bottom.


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: kratomboy]
    #4120406 - 05/01/05 09:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

what made you decide to do that versus using perlite or expanded clay or whatever?


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: starseed1066]
    #4120435 - 05/01/05 09:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i think he is talking about the layers in the casing container. you wouldn't use any of the materials you listed as a bottom layer in a casing.


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: four20snakeman]
    #4120495 - 05/01/05 09:25 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

verm on the bottom of a saeing is a good thing.


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4120542 - 05/01/05 09:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yea u dont want perlite or hydroton on the bottom of a casing u might ptut he container on top of that but not inside the container


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4120585 - 05/01/05 09:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ok, mental note, but could you enlighten me as to why not? i've got casings done that way now that--other than the crappy pinset from my supplying fruiting conditions too soon--seem to be doing just fine?


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: starseed1066]
    #4120593 - 05/01/05 09:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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what made you decide to do that versus using perlite or expanded clay or whatever?




I'm new at casing, but from what I've researched you can just put the subtrate in and then case, or you can put a layer of moist verm on the bottom to give a little extra water to the casing. So I opted for the latter.


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: starseed1066]
    #4120596 - 05/01/05 09:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i think its cuz perlite and hydroton dont do as good for moisture content as vermiculite....i suppose it could be used but verm is better IMHO


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4120598 - 05/01/05 09:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

perlite/hydroton is better for humidification not moisture retention


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4120633 - 05/01/05 09:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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perlite/hydroton is better for humidification not moisture retention




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Some peeps put a little bit of wet verm. on the bottom to aid the casings w/ more water. IOf you're using pf cakes as sub., then you probably won't need it...Grains on the other hand, i'd do w/e I could to help give it just a bit more water...

Verm. is ok as a casing layer...But
1.)By itself, it's hard to tell if it's saturated...or to over-saturated until it's to late...
2.)Not well with aeration...

There's more but i'm kinda lazy :drunk:...I usually just use coir and verm., only b/c i don't bother (lazy) with testing ph (peat moss)...

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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4120650 - 05/01/05 09:56 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

correct. i have never found a substitue for verm in pf jars. i have read som instances of using peat, but i never tried it. the peat info was after i grew, but i haven't seen widespread use of it.


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Re: Casing Newby with pinning question... [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4120656 - 05/01/05 09:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

you learn something new every day :beer:


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