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Incubating rye jars, few questions
    #4119644 - 05/01/05 07:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I'm about to make the transition from brf jars to rye (magash's tech) and I had a few questions. I have always used a submersible fish tank heater in a jar of water as my incubator, but I think this allows too much condensation to occur and soaks my jars. If I use a polyfil filter, what do you think is the best way to incubate? Can I just build a TiT for my terrarium and incubate in that? Also, does anybody know where to find a heater that keeps the temp at a constant level that you can set? Thanks everybody!


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Re: Incubating rye jars, few questions [Re: Stevo21]
    #4119657 - 05/01/05 07:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

its summer time, put em on a shelf and save your self a pain in the ass.


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Re: Incubating rye jars, few questions [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4119684 - 05/01/05 07:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I just picked up a Penn-Plax Guardian 200Watt heater.. it fucking ROCKS!!


(Guardian in TiT.. warming it up quite nicely)


(14" Guardian :thumbup: vs. 8" Tetra 50w 5-15 Gallon Water Heater :thumbdown:)


NOT glass.. not breakable, VERY safe.  Good advice : Silacone or waterproof glue your heater's suction cups to the bottom of your bottom TiT. :crazy2:

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Re: Incubating rye jars, few questions [Re: Stevo21]
    #4119755 - 05/01/05 07:32 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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. I have always used a submersible fish tank heater in a jar of water as my incubator, but I think this allows too much condensation to occur and soaks my jars. If I use a polyfil filter, what do you think is the best way to incubate





You need to seal your jar/heatbomb. Then you can fix your humidity problems. Very easy for contams to breed and cross-contaminate. Your heatbomb will work better with a lid on also.

I use polyfil with a coffee filter over the top of my jars and I use two, one gallon jars for heatbombs with little 25 watt heaters. Those are both in their own 50 gallon rubbermaid roughnecks.

Your temps do not need to very high. I love the heatbomb for the fact that my house is a 74-79 all the time and it is just strong enough to hold my temps in the tubs at a perfect 81.

I think heatbombs are the best way to go.

TiTs are prime but just more work for somthing that doesn't need to be. My TiT filled up very fast when I went to grains. Then it was useless to me cuz then my tubs that needed to sleep had no where to go. I couldn't fit my tubs inside of a TiT.

As ill advised as it is, I have used heating pads since day one - just make sure to use them like they are designed, to be placed on top of objects, never under anything and never close to your jars either.


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Re: Incubating rye jars, few questions [Re: Stevo21]
    #4119786 - 05/01/05 07:37 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I guess what I'm asking is, can I turn my terrarium into an incubator temporarily, and should I put something over the jars so the polfil filter won't absorb the water from the top of the terrarium


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Re: Incubating rye jars, few questions [Re: Civ]
    #4119794 - 05/01/05 07:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Water heaters suck! That's all I gotta say.

Why not buy a seedling heat mat at a gardening/hydroponics store? There's no humidity, it's not easy to break the mat, but the only thing is that you can't adjust the temps.

I lay down the heat mat on the floor, turn it on, put a plastic container over it with the jars and there you go! An incubator!

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Re: Incubating rye jars, few questions [Re: Tien]
    #4119811 - 05/01/05 07:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

dry heat drys out the jars. covection from below will evaporate the heat from the bottoms of the jar up threw the filter. But it does work and it works wel if you have a extra moist substrate.


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Re: Incubating rye jars, few questions [Re: Stevo21]
    #4119818 - 05/01/05 07:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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guess what I'm asking is, can I turn my terrarium into an incubator temporarily, and should I put something over the jars so the polfil filter won't absorb the water from the top of the terrarium





Huh? you want stick your new jars inside of a terrarium with perlite/pump/light and water? Just told you in last post that water is bad around your uncolonized jars. Light is bad. Terrariums are bad for jars. They are for fruiting.

Your moving up from BRF to grains? Make sure you have the basics down before you waste your time and stick your jars in there.


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Re: Incubating rye jars, few questions [Re: Tien]
    #4119825 - 05/01/05 07:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i agree water heater suck nothing like water dropping ontop of your jars.


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Re: Incubating rye jars, few questions [Re: Tien]
    #4119850 - 05/01/05 07:49 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Why not buy a seedling heat mat at a gardening/hydroponics store? There's no humidity, it's not easy to break the mat, but the only thing is that you can't adjust the temps.

I lay down the heat mat on the floor, turn it on, put a plastic container over it with the jars and there you go! An incubator!





That will suck all the water outa the jars over time. No direct heat on your jars. Seedling pads are great for seedlings that are being watered on a regular basis.

If they are warmer than your bodys temp - they are way hot. Touch them on the inside of your wrists if you don't have a temp gauge.

If useing a pad you should have lots of clearence from the heatsource and your jars.


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