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Offlinehardwaters
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LSD vs Cubensis Same poison
    #4115682 - 04/30/05 05:50 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Good eveing,

My sister is a nurse, and since she went to a couple of years of college she feels inherently more knowledgable than me. She says that the active ingredient in LSD is a poison and that is why one trips. Also she says that psilocybin and psilocin are also poisons and that is why one trips. Is there any truth to these assumptions? I search through the FAQs and couldn't find anything that answered that question. I wish I was more of a chemist so that I could understand the equations a little better.

Thanks for the guidance,

Hardwaters

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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: hardwaters]
    #4115697 - 04/30/05 05:54 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

um the active ingredient in lsd IS lsd

and its not a poison...if it doesnt kill you or even make you sick then how the hell would it be a poison

and psilocybin/psilocyn have different structures from lsd


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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: hardwaters]
    #4115716 - 04/30/05 05:58 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

buy her assumptions, every chemical would be a "poison"


almost everything can kill you in a big enough quanity. even water


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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: hardwaters] * 2
    #4115730 - 04/30/05 06:01 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)


Edited by Dark_Star (04/30/05 06:14 PM)

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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: Dark_Star]
    #4115746 - 04/30/05 06:04 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

nice linkage...  i was gonna but i was eating a sausage :wink:

high 5er :thumbup:


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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: hardwaters] * 1
    #4115777 - 04/30/05 06:16 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Your sister is dumb.

As Slipknot420 said, if you would consider LSD or psilocybin to be a poison, you would have to consider everything to be a poison.

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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: hardwaters]
    #4116153 - 04/30/05 07:37 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

By that same concept marijuana, xtc, alcohol... all that shit is poison.


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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: hardwaters]
    #4116173 - 04/30/05 07:41 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Poison - A substance that causes injury, illness, or death, especially by chemical means.

What she told you is such bs, thats not why you trip at all. You trip because these chemicals temporarily alter your brain chemisty.....Tell her to research some before spewing random bullshit that is false...


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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: barfightlard]
    #4116445 - 04/30/05 08:42 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

She was probably taught that LSD and Psilocybin contain strychnine. This is false. A 'doctor' told me the same thing. I don't know what dumbass is spreading this disinformation, but its not true.

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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #4116501 - 04/30/05 08:59 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

MushmanTheManic said:
I don't know what dumbass is spreading this disinformation, but its not true.



The DEA, other anti-drug organizations....the sad thing is how many people actually believe this shit.  :nonono: :rolleyes:


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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: Dark_Star]
    #4117794 - 05/01/05 04:49 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

hey, go easy on hardwaters' sister, she is just being concerned as a result of what she has been taught. It is far better to be wary and wrong than blase and wrong.
As has already been said, any chemical, in large enough volume, is a poison. That includes water, vitamins, other nutrients and so on. The key is to be aware of this.

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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: baraka]
    #4117951 - 05/01/05 07:28 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

heh, alcohol IS a poison :smile:


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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: SoopaX]
    #4117965 - 05/01/05 07:35 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, watch out for LSD and Psilocybin!

They both cause bubbles in your spine, scabbing and bleeding on your brain, and genetic damage!

STAY AWAY!

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per magister paracelsus: [Re: myndreach]
    #4118195 - 05/01/05 09:42 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

"dose, dose it is that maketh the poison!"

(*attributed to theophrastus bombastus von harnheim, ur somfin durn close ta thet, me droogies)


perhaps more interesting is the "theraputic to toxic" ratio --- (how much of something to be medicinal vs. how much to kill ya)(& none of this chronic exposure crapola here, we're lookin' for acute, mmmkay? yeah, bring on the LD50s, yowza!)


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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: myndreach]
    #4118210 - 05/01/05 09:48 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

People die every year from alcohol poisoning. There is on record of anyone ever dying from shrooms or acid. Actually there is 1 potential case of someone dying from psilocybe shrooms but there is much debate about it.
Most people will tell you that when they do clean acid or shrooms they actually feel better than normal when tripping and after coming down, certainly not feeling poisoned. Far from being a poison they are more of a medicine if used with respect by informed people.

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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: hardwaters]
    #4118413 - 05/01/05 11:13 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

She's a nurse not a chemist.

...an uneducated one, at that.

I feel bad she's a victim of the propaganda machine. :frown:

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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: Adden]
    #4118563 - 05/01/05 12:06 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

we're all victims of that, to a greater or lesser extent...
such is the downside of living in today's world

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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: hardwaters]
    #4119303 - 05/01/05 03:50 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Her mind is the only thing poisoned in this situation man. The best you can do is try to show her proof. Some people are so fucked up and set in their ways listening to the government BS that they will not even believe the hard facts. Good luck on unlocking her mind. :heart:


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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #4119322 - 05/01/05 03:56 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)


mmmkay.

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Re: LSD vs Cubensis Same poison [Re: Trainwreck]
    #4119799 - 05/01/05 05:39 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Alcohol is more of a poison than LSD or mushrooms will ever be.

You can even die if you drink enough alcohol!


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