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OfflineAlan Stone
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Universal Truth?
    #4115142 - 04/30/05 05:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

-x * -1 = x

Discuss.


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #4115149 - 04/30/05 05:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

very intresting subject im not sure what you are looking for.

anything times 1 equals itself and thing times the opposite of 1 equals the opposite of itself so...

the opposite of x time the opposite of one equals x


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Retired]
    #4115202 - 04/30/05 05:40 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Think less math, more life.

Quote:

the opposite of x time the opposite of one equals x



What is the opposite of one? How does it affect x? Think relations. Abstrahise the symbolism and apply to life.


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Edited by Alan Stone (04/30/05 06:12 PM)


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #4115229 - 04/30/05 05:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Infinite....(?)    Such is life.... 

(and welcome back....!)

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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4115233 - 04/30/05 05:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks  :stoned:


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #4115289 - 04/30/05 06:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

the root of -4 ? shiet.. Duck off!


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #4115384 - 04/30/05 06:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

To answer the title:

Is meaningless.

You can apply that notion to many things especially in way of chemical applications.... you apply 2 things with a negative charge... you don't result in anything positive, just something that is a blend of the negatives which is still negative (take acids and ph levels for instance)


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #4115483 - 04/30/05 07:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ja, welcome back. Joo was talking about how people leave and never return and I thought of you and some others like def and mix to name a few. :heart:

Carry on...........


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #4115493 - 04/30/05 07:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

all in all we are all from the same source and part of a greater whole other then our selfs


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4115550 - 04/30/05 07:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, let me change my answer to "Infinitely ONE"....  :grin:


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #4115571 - 04/30/05 07:30 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

1

oh

1

the only way is

1

:smile:


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #4115600 - 04/30/05 07:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Aaaahhh, I have not listened to Creed in a while....!    Perhaps I need to listen to that CD again....    :laugh:

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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Alan Stone]
    #4115669 - 04/30/05 07:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If a calculator is wired incorrectly, it will always come out with wrong answers, because that calculator only knows what is put into it. Humans are the same. Natural selection may have purposely wired us miscorrectly, and we'd never know because we only know ourselves and the information being put into us. We cannot step outside our perception.

Which does not mean that there is no universal truth, but that we can never be assured of a universal truth, or for that matter anything but our perception. The best humans can get is a universal perception.


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Ravus]
    #4115692 - 04/30/05 07:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

take a child and place them in isolation and in the woods never tainted by what the general consensus on what life is or about and i beg to disagree with your statment.

Its all about servival first and foremost. What we philosphy is nothing more then being bored and ammusing ourselfs.


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Ravus]
    #4115704 - 04/30/05 07:55 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

The more you let go of your conditioning and staindness, your calculator will re-wire itself to see and compute "truth"....  :wink:


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
    #4115710 - 04/30/05 07:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

How can life be about survival when we don't need to fight to survive?
So what, now our life has no meaning anymore?


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4115721 - 04/30/05 07:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

truth about what?


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4115737 - 04/30/05 08:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You do need to fight to survive, fight the urge to die.....


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
    #4115749 - 04/30/05 08:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

OldWoodSpecter said:
truth about what?




Yes....!    :wink:


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Re: Universal Truth? [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4116033 - 04/30/05 09:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Place a calculator with a fatal flaw in its basic processing, leave it for long enough and it will not repair itself. And that is even making the jump to assume there is something absolute and universal, which there is not. There is only perception.

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take a child and place them in isolation and in the woods never tainted by what the general consensus on what life is or about and i beg to disagree with your statment.

Its all about servival first and foremost. What we philosphy is nothing more then being bored and ammusing ourselfs.




I don't get what you're insinuating though. The reason a child like this wouldn't realize his own perception is because he is constantly busy fighting for survival and so cannot sit and meditate or learn science. It really doesn't change the fact that the child uses perception just like everyone else, and cannot see outside of his perception.

It is all about survival, and if our survival required perceptual errors, that is what we would develop. If nobody had ever experienced color, would they know that they're even missing anything? Color is just a perception, just like all our senses, and they are entirely subjective to our individual experience, so that we never know what we are missing or even if our senses are just an individual flaw.


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