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OfflinePowerTrip
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Caffeine use while on mushrooms?
    #4114837 - 04/30/05 03:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

For the people here who consume coffee every morning as part of your daily ritual, I'm sure you know of the effect caffeine can have on your state of mind. I know in my case it instantly brings me up and makes me feel ready to conquer the day. I usually consume some caffeine in the morning, and then usually another dose in the afternoon. I was wondering if anyone has had experience with using caffeine while on shrooms and the effect it has on you. While on shrooms I feel wide awake as I'm sure most do, but I still think there is the potential there for the caffeine to alter your mood. I suppose there is also the possibility that it could cause anxiety. Anyone with experience in this, your feedback would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4115036 - 04/30/05 04:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Given that caffeine will speed up your metabolism... I would say that the psilocybin would change into psilocin a lot faster, so a faster onset of the trip would be likely. This part is a hunch, but I'm thinkin that it would make a bad trip more likely.


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: ckyrock]
    #4115357 - 04/30/05 06:25 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I've only tripped a few times, but the last time I washed the cubes down with some pepsi. I tripped alone and it was more recreational than spiritual. I would have expected the opposite, but I had a great time. I actually didn't have more energy than usual. If I stayed in one spot for too long I would still get kind of tired untill I moved around again. This combonation didn't feel as natural as usual, but was fun. I may try it again whilst tripping with friends in the future.


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4116625 - 04/30/05 11:35 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I think it would be great when you're getting tired but are still quite high and don't want to zone out and miss out on the effects. I have also found that when when I drank coffee the morning after a trip that something would seem to intensify after drinking it...not like I was tripping again, just...well, things seemed to intensify...it's a feeling, the same thing happens with tea but too a lesser degree. Anyone else experience this?


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4117253 - 05/01/05 03:07 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I doubt it would make much of a difference if you are a seasoned coffe-holic.

Try some if you want... it isn't crack.


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: Rose]
    #4117366 - 05/01/05 03:43 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Coffee is thought to have more alkaloids than just caffiene, so that would be interesting comparing coffee and psilocybin to tea and psilocybin, or just a caffeinated soft drink and psilocybin.


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: rocknliam]
    #4117373 - 05/01/05 03:45 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, but when someone drinks it every day, the effects will be less I figure.


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: Rose]
    #4117379 - 05/01/05 03:47 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yes indeed, sorry i wasnt replying to your post, just the idea of coffee in general.


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: rocknliam]
    #4118212 - 05/01/05 11:48 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

well coffee, i dunno...
but "traditional" aztec use often combined mushrooms with cocoa beverage (sometimes with quite a few other "flowers" added in --- chilies, herbs, seeds, blossoms, etc... check out XOCHIPILLI (sp?) prince of the flowers in wasson's excellent book _the wondrous mushroom: mycolatry in mesoamerica_ (also in _the golden guide to hallucinogenic plants_ mmmkay?))
mmmkay...

(& i like a cuppa shokolade sometimes on those late electric evenings...
or a cuppa tea, thankee much...
ymmv...)


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: ckyrock]
    #4120234 - 05/01/05 08:45 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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ckyrock said:
Given that caffeine will speed up your metabolism... I would say that the psilocybin would change into psilocin a lot faster, so a faster onset of the trip would be likely. This part is a hunch, but I'm thinkin that it would make a bad trip more likely.




Naw... once somehow I had an instant comeup on shrooms, and it was the best trip of my life.


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: MeThoD]
    #4120342 - 05/01/05 08:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

That's the first I've ever heard of THAT! Must've been a perfect set and setting...


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: PowerTrip]
    #4120532 - 05/01/05 09:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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PowerTrip said:
For the people here who consume coffee every morning as part of your daily ritual, I'm sure you know of the effect caffeine can have on your state of mind.  I know in my case it instantly brings me up and makes me feel ready to conquer the day.  I usually consume some caffeine in the morning, and then usually another dose in the afternoon.  I was wondering if anyone has had experience with using caffeine while on shrooms and the effect it has on you.  While on shrooms I feel wide awake as I'm sure most do, but I still think there is the potential there for the caffeine to alter your mood.  I suppose there is also the possibility that it could cause anxiety.  Anyone with experience in this, your feedback would be greatly appreciated.




I've tripped a few times after taking a 200mg caffeine pill.  I don't know why, but I've only had good experiences with doing this.  My mood stayed uplifted and liberated during the trip.  Any anxiety I had quickly passed. Then again, I am a pretty hard-core caffeine addict so your mileage may vary.  :wink:


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: Rose]
    #4120534 - 05/01/05 09:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

If you used the same amount of caffine regularily I dont think it would change your trip any. Maby in higher doses though..


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Re: Caffeine use while on mushrooms? [Re: ShroomOmatic]
    #4120760 - 05/01/05 10:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

In my opinion, the effects of coffee on the stomache would be annoying while tripping if it was consumed too quickly. I may try it oneday though. It could also add to the whole nausea factor.


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