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InvisibleRavus
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Suicide
    #4112767 - 04/30/05 12:02 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

What are your views on suicide?
You may choose only one
It's for the weak
It's a good way to end a bad life
It'll send you to Hell for all eternity!
It helps clear up overpopulation at least
Other (describe below)
Do you know anybody who has committed suicide?
You may choose only one
Yes, personally
Yes, as AFOAF
No
Have you ever contemplated committing suicide?
You may choose only one
Yes
No
Have you ever attempted committing suicide?
You may choose only one
Yes
No
Do you think you'll take the Thompson solution when you're older?
You may choose only one
Probably
Probably not, unless I'm in fatal circumstances (lethal form of cancer, etc.)
Never


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OfflineSWEDEN
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Re: Suicide [Re: Ravus]
    #4114823 - 04/30/05 03:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

*bad way to end a good life :frown:


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Re: Suicide [Re: Ravus]
    #4114835 - 04/30/05 03:55 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

suicides an alternaitve


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Re: Suicide [Re: barfightlard]
    #4115648 - 04/30/05 07:42 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I think it definitely has its place. If I was an 80 year old man with my systems failing, dementia setting in and everyone I once knew dead, I wouldn't hesitate to follow Thompson or Hemingway's lead.


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Re: Suicide [Re: Ravus]
    #4115967 - 04/30/05 08:58 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

lol @ "yes personally committed suicide"


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Re: Suicide [Re: TODAY]
    #4117118 - 05/01/05 02:10 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Staying on the topic of suicide, does anyone know why Hunter S. Thompson did it? I've never read any of his books, so I don't know if he ever referred to it in a positive manner or not.


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Re: Suicide [Re: nanananotehead]
    #4117205 - 05/01/05 02:31 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

My answers...flame me if you want:


1. It's for the weak.
2.Yes. My father committed suicide. I found his body. I was 8.
3. No
4.No
5.I chose probably not.


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Re: Suicide [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
    #4117993 - 05/01/05 09:49 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Why would anyone flame you for your answers there?  :confused:


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Re: Suicide [Re: nanananotehead]
    #4118972 - 05/01/05 04:19 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

The main reason people have gathered, from his discussions with his family in the preceding weeks and such, is that he was suffering health problems, growing old and didn't want to deal with it, so he offed himself.

His wife and others say that it wasn't a sponteous decision, he had been talking about it for a while and had been trying to get closer to his family before his death. I wonder what kind of experience that is, knowing your own date of death and preparing for it.


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Re: Suicide [Re: Ravus]
    #4119227 - 05/01/05 05:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

mannnn...life's tough, but suicide?why not better not...


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Re: Suicide [Re: Ravus]
    #4119854 - 05/01/05 07:49 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

fuck my whole post just got deleted... anyway i'll type a short bit of it again... ive contemplated suicide nearly every day for the past five years now. i live a very hard live and in seriously horrid pain and have done so for a long time. i dont have any options and i know this as the truth, i do not have any options and ive exhausted every possible option that had any bit of potential over the years without anything working. this is pain i have to live with and many, many layers on top of layers of other fucked up things on top of the worst shit. i still think that someday i will take my life... sooner or later... im amazed ive made it this far.. i was so close to ending it within the first year... anyway.. ive expressed this a good number of times at the shroomery and i think people in similar situations to me have a right to do so.. when there are no options, which is very rare.. my life is so fucked up... im done typing now though.. peace


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Re: Suicide [Re: Locus]
    #4122156 - 05/02/05 05:33 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I'd never do it while my parents are still alive or if I had kids.

Quote:

2.Yes. My father committed suicide. I found his body. I was 8.




That's terrible. How'd he do it? What did you do?


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Re: Suicide [Re: Locus]
    #4122158 - 05/02/05 05:34 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Locus said:
fuck my whole post just got deleted... anyway i'll type a short bit of it again... ive contemplated suicide nearly every day for the past five years now. i live a very hard live and in seriously horrid pain and have done so for a long time. i dont have any options and i know this as the truth, i do not have any options and ive exhausted every possible option that had any bit of potential over the years without anything working. this is pain i have to live with and many, many layers on top of layers of other fucked up things on top of the worst shit. i still think that someday i will take my life... sooner or later... im amazed ive made it this far.. i was so close to ending it within the first year... anyway.. ive expressed this a good number of times at the shroomery and i think people in similar situations to me have a right to do so.. when there are no options, which is very rare.. my life is so fucked up... im done typing now though.. peace




What causes your pain?


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What is this? It is a prolate spheroid, an elongated sphere in which the outer leather casing is drawn tightly over a somewhat smaller rubber tubing. Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football.

-John Heisman

"I didn’t dive on one fumble because the way my leg was (positioned)," Newton told reporters in Charlotte on Tuesday. "It could have been contorted in a way. You say my effort? I didn’t dive down. I fumbled - that’s fine. That’s fine. We didn’t lose the game because of that fumble.”

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Re: Suicide [Re: Ravus]
    #4122870 - 05/02/05 12:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Personally, I don't think it's anyone's right to judge someone who's committed suicide, or who's comtemplating it. You can't possibly know what pain they're going through to be able to say that they're weak for it.


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Re: Suicide [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
    #4123272 - 05/02/05 02:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Might be a way out for the weak sometimes, but not in all cases.


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Re: Suicide [Re: Ravus]
    #4124462 - 05/02/05 07:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

I don't believe in suicide as a way out of depression, but I do support such practices as seppuku or self-euthanasia. I've contemplated suicide before, and twice came really close to actually attempting it. I don't personally know anyone who's done it and succeeded, but my brother had a friend who did it, and my ex-gf made one attempt which she just barely survived.


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Re: Suicide [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #4124787 - 05/02/05 09:00 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

TheFakeSunRa said:
I'd never do it while my parents are still alive or if I had kids.

Quote:

2.Yes. My father committed suicide. I found his body. I was 8.




That's terrible. How'd he do it? What did you do?




He hung himself in my bedroom closet.  :frown:


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Re: Suicide [Re: moog]
    #4126769 - 05/03/05 09:16 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

moog said:
Personally, I don't think it's anyone's right to judge someone who's committed suicide, or who's comtemplating it. You can't possibly know what pain they're going through to be able to say that they're weak for it.




well put, i agree


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