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InvisibleSwami
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Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response
    #4109249 - 04/29/05 01:07 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Simple. It precludes having to examine one's self. This type of post is NO DIFFERENT than smashing one's racquet on the wall. It is a transference of internal doubt to a presumed external "enemy". It keeps all your beliefs "safe".


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: Swami]
    #4109394 - 04/29/05 02:05 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You can say the same thing for why a poster may have an issue with coming under personal analysis/examination. He may if he is wanting to keep his beliefs hidden and safe.

If the poster comes under personal analysis then why can't he apply the same self examination? Its a two way street so this really isn't a one way issue, unless, the poster doesn't want his own beliefs exposed or examined, just those of others.


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4109420 - 04/29/05 02:16 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

How is discussing the poster in any way on-topic with the Subject of the thread if the Subject doesn't mention the poster??


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4109423 - 04/29/05 02:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Nice try jiggerama, but this IS the S&P Forum in case anyone has forgotten. It is about ideas not individuals.

Even assuming what you say is valid, those that choose to psychoanalyze are not only consistently wrong, but only choose to analyze specific posters. This is called "bias" and reeks of emotionalism, not any sort of search for understanding.


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: Swami]
    #4109461 - 04/29/05 02:35 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It wasn't a try at anything. It is as it is.

Sure a search for understanding is going on when you look to understand peoples motives.

Of course it may be off topic Diploid. Did swami type or not type that a person is attempting to avoid self examination or not? Why does it apply in one sided?

If being on topic means no examinations of persons are allowed then why is it even an issue for even the replier to have to as swami says they should but are avoiding it? They should also be allowed not to have to examine their own beliefs if it is about the topic.

If the believer has to examiner their beliefs but the non believer doesn't have to examine the reasons for their disbelief then that is a double standard.

Swami,

If peoples personal beliefs are not to be examined here then why did you just make a comment about how people avoid doing that here as if it was wrong? You said in your next reply it was right in accordance with the rules.

Total double standard here.


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4109480 - 04/29/05 02:41 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Of course it may be off topic Diploid.

Bingo!  :syringe:

If peoples personal beliefs are not to be examined here then why did you just make a comment about how people avoid doing that here as if it was wrong?

Did you miss the "The anti-Swami thread."??


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: Diploid]
    #4109511 - 04/29/05 02:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Then so is swamis request that people not avoid self examination.

If just the topic matter is all that matters, why is he telling people to do self examinations? Which is it? If self examinations matter then it goes both ways.

What do you want me to do, put a red flag up every time swami does it? He just did it to me 5 minutes ago. I gave a valid hypothetical(something he does all of the time) and he turned on me personally.

I'm calling him on the hypocrisy of his comment.

I'm also going to bed now.  :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4109534 - 04/29/05 03:06 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If peoples personal beliefs are not to be examined here then why did you just make a comment about how people avoid doing that here as if it was wrong?

Belief: Spores are from space.

Belief: Remote-viewing can be performed by anyone.

Evidence for or against these declarations are ALL that is relevant. Whether or not the poster was a bed-wetter or fantasized about his mother or cross-dresses or is old and cranky has NO bearing.


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #4109536 - 04/29/05 03:08 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If just the topic matter is all that matters, why is he telling people to do self examinations? Which is it? If self examinations matter then it goes both ways.

When someone brings up a personal event (I dreamed 9/11 on 9/10), then their personal state of mind becomes part of the subject especially since the poster is never able to substantiate their claim (as in a post in S&P the day before the event).


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: Diploid]
    #4109546 - 04/29/05 03:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I dreamed 9/11 on 9/10...

Me too! I remember saying to a friend on the tenth, "Hey did you know tomorrow is the eleventh?"


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: Swami]
    #4109590 - 04/29/05 03:39 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Oh yeah? I don't believe you.

Why didn't you document your premonition with a post in S&P?  :rolleyes:


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: Diploid]
    #4109663 - 04/29/05 04:10 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

:microwave:


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: Delusion_of_Self]
    #4109692 - 04/29/05 04:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I guess some people just can't take it. Like the little guy in the microwave.


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: Delusion_of_Self]
    #4109715 - 04/29/05 04:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

spores are from space  :mushroomgrow:


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: fresh313]
    #4109919 - 04/29/05 06:23 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Character assasination is much easier than forming a solid intellectual retort.


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: The_Walrus]
    #4109944 - 04/29/05 06:41 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The problem lies in people that have egos of infinite mass, just like a blackhole, they tend to compulsively suck anything that passes them by.


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: Swami]
    #4109957 - 04/29/05 06:51 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Belief: Spores are from space.




This is a proof scientific knowledge can produce a set of beliefs. Believing in the "unknown" has the same logical weight as believing in the "not fully known".
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/survive_space_021126.html
TRUE knowledge is absolute, scientific knowledge only applies logical methods or processes to validate theories (scientific belief). Although the method can be absolute in functional terms, their conclusions are not. They are subjected to reviews and change over time, just as any belief is ...

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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: MAIA]
    #4109963 - 04/29/05 06:58 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

seeds of the universe


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: fresh313]
    #4110772 - 04/29/05 01:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

fresh313 said:
spores are from space  :mushroomgrow:



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:thumbup:
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Even the Earth is IN outer space, so it is not that far of a stretch to say that everything is from outer space....  :tongue:


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Re: Why analysis of the poster is preferred to response [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4110797 - 04/29/05 01:32 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Dude the point is that poster evaluation as opposed to content evaluation brings nothing to the table. If you choose to evaluate the poster as opposed to what he or she says, then you have nothing contructive to say in regards to content. The content is crossing your comfortable boundary and you choose to ignore it and pretend to focus on what's relevant when you really aren't.


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