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pics are these the same??
    #410903 - 10/02/01 11:18 AM (21 years, 5 days ago)




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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: fig]
    #410911 - 10/02/01 11:26 AM (21 years, 5 days ago)

are these two species related?
if not help in identifying this kind would be nice.
Im having some trouble with it.

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: fig]
    #410939 - 10/02/01 12:19 PM (21 years, 5 days ago)

Not the same species i think, look at the gills, the one you're grabbing has "spongeous" gills, also the clusters are growing in some dead tree i think, wich also points to not being a psilocybe and psilocybe clusters don't grow like that.

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: fig]
    #410955 - 10/02/01 12:54 PM (21 years, 5 days ago)

you are wrong about the gills. it was jest a bad pic.but thx


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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: fig]
    #410972 - 10/02/01 02:04 PM (21 years, 5 days ago)

What color was the spore print?
Do the mushrooms you found briuse blue?

BTW MIMA... there are plenty kinds of Psilocybe mushrooms that grow directly from decaying wood, it just depends on where they were found.

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: fig]
    #411099 - 10/02/01 06:29 PM (21 years, 5 days ago)

are those growing out of wood? they look kinda like laughing gyms.... regardless tho, if they stain blue and five off a purplish colored sporeprint, your probably good to go.

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: shellacct]
    #411107 - 10/02/01 06:50 PM (21 years, 5 days ago)

they turn bluish green. I will post a spore print later today.
yes these mushrooms are growing out of wood mostly.
there is moss around where they grow usualy. They came from a mountan pasture in east tennessee if that helps.


thank you *plz if anyone has more info reply.*



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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: fig]
    #411133 - 10/02/01 07:17 PM (21 years, 5 days ago)

I edited this post, because of the fact that I believed your mushroom was Naematoloma fasciculare aka Sulfer Tuft.
Well, I'm thinking about that veil as well as the size of that mushroom! I'm stumped!
Yeah, everything points to Sulfer Tuft, except for that veil. I haven't known them to have veils like that, usually only an annular zone.
Anyway, MAIA, what do you mean by spongy? Can't you see those gills?
And, as Gumby said, many many Psilocybes grow from rotted wood. They are saprophytes and are part of the decaying processes of grass, wood, plants, etc.
Stay cool!-Levi7.

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: fig]
    #411375 - 10/03/01 12:20 AM (21 years, 5 days ago)

high fig,

The mushrooms you found look to me like Pholiota mutablilis, or the "Changing Pholiota".

They are Edible, but with caution.
--So dont eat them

...if the spore prints turn out cinnamon-brown,
then they are this species i mention.

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #411439 - 10/03/01 01:22 AM (21 years, 4 days ago)

thespore prints turned out white to verry light blue.
thank you. Any other guesses

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: fig]
    #411718 - 10/03/01 05:13 AM (21 years, 4 days ago)

Fig:

Those look VERY much like Armilleria mellea or "Honey Mushroom," a white spored, veiled edible species which grows in dense clusters on dead wood but can also parasitize living trees & shrubs. The color, the shape, everything is dead on. Except I've NEVER seen even a trace of bluing on the honeys & I pick them every year when nothing better is fruiting. You real sure about that blue-green thing? Some Gymnopilus might do that, but they have orange spores.



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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: Woodsman]
    #411764 - 10/03/01 05:57 AM (21 years, 4 days ago)

i had thought they were sulfur tufts except for the ring and the bluing reaction, but i must go with the honey mushroom. i have collected plenty of the former but none of the latter. they don't look sufficiently like sulfur tufts and the spore-print confirms it.



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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: tchyted]
    #411770 - 10/03/01 06:04 AM (21 years, 4 days ago)

Perhaps he has discovered a new species!

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: Levi7]
    #412128 - 10/03/01 01:32 PM (21 years, 4 days ago)

Thanks for correcting me, guess i should read a bit more before replying, you guys are really into this ID stuff, you rock. BTW Levi, on the first set of pics it's hard to distinguish the gills and i responded to that post, the pic posted after i reply i can see gills with no doubt.
Anyway, for what i know Psilocybes species are dunglovers and Panaeolus species are more woodlovers, that's why i said they probably weren't Psilocybes, guess i was wrong, duh!

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: MAIA]
    #412264 - 10/03/01 05:53 PM (21 years, 4 days ago)

Actually, man, Panaeolii and Psilcybes are both saprophytes. Well, Panaolii generally are dung lovers, but might show up where grass, etc. are decaying, usually associates with fertilizers, though. Many Psilocybes are wood-lovers, while many are also dung-lovers. Actually, some Psilocybes may be found thriving on wood in one area and grass in another.
Panaeolii are not wood-lovers, though. Generally speaking, Panaeolii are dung-lovers.
I know, it's somewhat confusing, but anyway........
Hey, you're studying and that's awesome! Keep it up!
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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: Woodsman]
    #412279 - 10/03/01 06:04 PM (21 years, 4 days ago)

Hmmm.........I don't agree with the Honey Mushroom. Then again, I've only picked the more caramel-colored caps, with the fibers. You know what I mean? The blue-green bluing is really mind-boggling here! I don't know about that. Although, they do have the same look as the Armillaria, but the color? Dunno. The veil, though, is spitting image as well as the stem structure.
I also don't agree with The Changeable Pholiota. Still, it's possible.
I'm gonna combine each of your whits and go with The Changeable Armillaria. Hehe! I'm bad!
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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: Levi7]
    #412376 - 10/03/01 08:07 PM (21 years, 4 days ago)

I'm a asshole, i have dozens of Panaeolus growing from horse shit outside then i say they are woodlovers, i've got to stop smoking weed.

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: MAIA]
    #412422 - 10/03/01 08:43 PM (21 years, 4 days ago)

You're not an asshole. You might be stoned, but again, you're not an asshole.
I'm an asshole.
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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: Levi7]
    #412991 - 10/04/01 06:07 AM (21 years, 3 days ago)

sorry my mistake on the blue green bruisig , i ment the stems have a greenish tint

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Re: pics are these the same?? [Re: fig]
    #413766 - 10/04/01 11:52 PM (21 years, 3 days ago)

hi fig, i also found these today growing out of decaying wood. they dont bruise blue , but the bottom of stem is slightly green/blue/yellow(as you said)
Changing Pholiota has cinamon brown spore print so its not that. im still looking for what it may be. Changing pholiota has "conspicuously scaly stalk" as well. these do not.



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