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InvisibleSwami
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Crop Circles on TLC
    #4109000 - 04/29/05 12:01 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yet another show with believers putting meaning into formations created by 2*4's and string.

Are we so fucking hungry for the mystical that we MUST delude ourselves? Can't we at least move on to the next phenomenon?


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Re: Crop Circles on TLC [Re: Swami]
    #4109224 - 04/29/05 12:59 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Psychic Surgery!!! Yeah!  :syringe:


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Re: Crop Circles on TLC [Re: Swami]
    #4109950 - 04/29/05 06:45 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Here is a previous post that I made on the subject:

soulmotion said in an earler post:
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Many crop circles are obvious man made hoaxes.There have been hoaxers using the 2" X 4" method, and some even using more elaborate methods. There are some crop circles, however, which exhibit unique characteristics; characteristics which have not yet been replicated by any hoaxers. Some of these features include EM radiation, threaded 'interlocking' stems, and higher crop yeilds in the effected grain. Those are just a few of the phenomena associated with a 'true' crop circle.

I believe it's possible that even "authentic" crop circles are man made, although the methodology to produce such escapes conventional science. Authentic crop circles may also be a phenomenon of nature; there are academic texts dating back to the 17th century describing crop circles, so it's not unlikely that they are a natural phenomenon.




I'll make you a deal Swami (since I know how zealous you are to settle every question with brusk skepticism):

You provide me an explaination for those unacounted-for phenomena, and I will renounce any interest that I had in the subject of crop circles, and consider the case closed.

(by the way, I think I should state one more time for the record that I never allied myself with the notion that crop circles were produced by extra-terrestrials, or anything like that. For all I know it could be a geological phenomenon, or, if you can provide an explaination, not a phenomenon at all.)


Edited by soulmotion (04/29/05 03:55 PM)


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Re: Crop Circles on TLC [Re: Swami]
    #4109961 - 04/29/05 06:57 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Are we so fucking hungry for the mystical that we MUST delude ourselves?




No, we can delude ourselves with a scientific explanation instead. Nevertheless, will be deluding ourselves until we find out what's really behind the phenomenon.

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Re: Crop Circles on TLC [Re: MAIA]
    #4111327 - 04/29/05 03:54 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

BUMP!

Come on Swami, share the knowlege, man. You know why all crop circles are man made then please rescue me from my delusion!


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Re: Crop Circles on TLC [Re: soulmotion]
    #4111356 - 04/29/05 04:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You know why all crop circles are man made then please rescue me from my delusion!

It is not why, but how. A crop circle being made by students was filmed in detail from beginning to end.

Then three well-known "expert" cereologists were brought in to check radiation, EM, burst nodes, bent-not-broken stalks, footprints, etc. All three declared the circle to be "genuine" (as in: not man-made).

They were then shown the entire video. One "expert" conceded that he had been duped. The other two failed to change their positions in light of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. DOH!

Does this prove ALL are hoaxes? No, but as the experts were wrong, and not one circle is beyond the capability of men, there is NO reason to look further.


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Re: Crop Circles on TLC [Re: Swami]
    #4112181 - 04/29/05 08:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno~, I think they are kinda~ kewl~....!  :shrug: 
However they are made, neat designs....  :grin:


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Re: Crop Circles on TLC [Re: Swami]
    #4112192 - 04/29/05 08:09 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Then don't look further


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Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: Swami]
    #4112368 - 04/29/05 09:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)



Even the Shroomery has unexplained designs....  :shocked: 
(Kinda~ supports the fact that Shroomz~ are from outerspace...!)  :lol:

I wonder what it means.....    :sun:


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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4112378 - 04/29/05 09:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:rotfl:


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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4112390 - 04/29/05 09:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Anyone know the specific names for the latin-american indian formations of animals that can be seen from the sky?

I wanted to relate this phenomena to crop circles in way of creating images that can only be truly seen in their full scop from the heavens. Some sort of cultural phenomena at work.

Can also talk about another cultural phenomena of pyramids created at ~ the same time throughout various cultures. (Japan, China, The americas, Egypt, et etal) ...

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Misc/mummies.htm
This is rather obscure, but might as well say it, interesting to note that Cocaine, and nicotiner were found in Egypt within a tomb of one of the pharoahs... considering that Coca only grows in the Americas.... they had to be in contact in one form or another, or something had to communicate the cultural phenomena to the great extent its correlated by the time of their creations.

Edit:
Found a link to give my info a little bit more credibility. Also added nicotine.


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4112395 - 04/29/05 09:28 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I actually glanced at a book in a bookstore today about those pics you are speaking of....  Crazy....    :eek:


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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4112400 - 04/29/05 09:30 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe just an advanced form of worship and painting pictures to the "gods" or something? :shrug:

It's odd, I'll leave it at that for now.


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4112423 - 04/29/05 09:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I remember seeing something from TLC from somewhere about all of these long lines on the ground going for miles that you can only see from the air....  From what I remember, the lines are very long, and very straight....  Seems like they were lined on the outside edges with rocks, many rocks....  They were speculating that they were some sort of runway strips, but it was just speculation....  Interesting stuff....! 

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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4112446 - 04/29/05 09:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I forget what culture it was, some culture in South America iirc (sorry, I forget lots of specifics, sure it could be found on the internet).

Anyway, they had advanced agricultural techniques, and the yields were comparable today, if not higher (found through historical records + accounting for feeding the relative population size known to exist) from their accounts. It was a system devised by using the eco-system to their advantage, not much is known about the specifis, but it did exist.
http://www.rivenrock.com/terraces.html general info.


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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.


Edited by Psychoactive1984 (04/29/05 09:54 PM)


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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4112470 - 04/29/05 09:55 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Aaahhhh, the mysteries of the world....    Perhaps someday we will all "know"....  :grin:


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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4112471 - 04/29/05 09:55 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

We all already do.... we just pretend otherwise. :wink:


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"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4112481 - 04/29/05 09:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.crystalinks.com/nazca.html

Towards the bottom are the lines I was talking about.... The upper pictures are the ones I saw earlier today that I thought you were talking about....(?)


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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: eMotionALLmotion]
    #4112487 - 04/29/05 10:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup: Yup. Thanks for the link, will keep me busy for a few.


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Re: Crop Circles on the Shroomery.... =) [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4112495 - 04/29/05 10:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Haaaa...! There is a humming bird.....!



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