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OfflineLun4e
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100g 10x extract = lifetime supply?
    #4107714 - 04/28/05 04:24 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Well, what with the legal rumblings, I'm thinking I should try to get a ton of salvia to last me the rest of my life. I found 1kg for ~240 US dollars, and with that I could make 100 grams of 10x extract. Do you think I could ever use 100 grams of 10x extract? Even with sharing it around a bit, how long do you think 100 grams would last? Seemed like a good idea, your thoughts are appreciated.


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Lun4e]
    #4107720 - 04/28/05 04:25 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Just buy a plant.

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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Lun4e]
    #4107736 - 04/28/05 04:29 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I would like to... but if it does become illegal, it would be a lot easier to have a mason jar hidden somewhere than to keep a plant growing in secret. If I do get the chance, I will try to grow some. Has anyone here used more than 100g of 10x extract or its equivalent? Does anyone think they could manage this over anything shorter than a 5 year period? Thanks for the reply toilet!


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Lun4e]
    #4107811 - 04/28/05 04:46 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

4,000 to 6,000 treats


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4107878 - 04/28/05 05:04 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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redgreenvines said:
4,000 to 6,000 treats




:eek:

That's a LOT of times... holy hell. I respect that. Over what time period was this, and how many of these treats could have been contribued by 100g of 10x extract (I was hoping at least 500...). Well, I dont think I can afford more than 1 kilo, but if anyone has links to somewhere with better prices for same or larger quantity, I'd be interested.

EDIT - Did you mean 100g of 10x would be enough for that many experiences? That would make me quite happy... let me know!


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Lun4e]
    #4108226 - 04/28/05 06:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

1 gm of good 10x does me 50 hoots or more
10 gm ---500 hoots
100gm ===5000 hoots
no?


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Lun4e]
    #4108269 - 04/28/05 06:21 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

They're talking about making it illegal? Any links to any news articles or anything where they are discussing it?

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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Oddish]
    #4108476 - 04/28/05 07:23 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

its been talked about for a while but it may never be done... if there are little to no complaints about salvia it will be fine. its when some stupid kid dies somehow and gets blamed because of salvia when it will be tried to make illegal


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: danlennon3]
    #4108704 - 04/28/05 08:38 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I hope you're right oddish and danlenon. I still want a lifetime supply :laugh: . Thx for the reply redgreenvines, if I ever do make my 100g I will pm you to see if you want one or two of them :smile:. Anyone have a comment on the healthiness of smoking that much salvia over a lifetime? Lol I hope I dont get more than halfway through, 1kg of salvia is a lot..


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Lun4e]
    #4108871 - 04/28/05 09:10 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

can someone PM me the best site to get extract? it would be really appreciated


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: danlennon3]
    #4109040 - 04/28/05 10:12 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I seriously couldn't imagine smoking Salvia more than say 50 times during your life. Seems like a waste to me. But who knows.

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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Lun4e]
    #4109622 - 04/29/05 01:56 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

If you want to go for a lifetime supply you'd have to keep it airtight in a freezer, preferably a really cold one. If you keep it in the dark at room temperature quality will slowly diminish over the years.

I agree that you will want a plant but I can see you want to have it hasslefree as well. If you can afford it, and can keep it, I'd say go for it.

Let's do a calculation:

100gr = 3.333 hits

If you consider a man-session to be 3.3 doses then that's 1.000 man-sessions.

Provided you will visit the realm 20 times a year...

then 100 grams 10x equals

50 years of one person/one session per three weeks
25 years of two persons/one session per three weeks

Which would indeed make it a lifetime supply.

Since you are considering deepstash across decades it would be best to keep the majority of it as pure salvinorin and a freezer (not fridge) is definately needed.

I am of the conviction that if you never take too high a dose which might scare you and if you like the experience, that there is no reason to assume you'll be anything but a monthly user, perhaps even a frequent flier.

Salvia is NOT a gimmick. It is a dyed-in-the-wool psychedelic of a novel class that can be interesting, fruitful and fun.

I must agree you got to grow a plant and make alot of cuttings as well because chewing/making tea of the leaves with it's 1-3 hour effect at least to me holds more appeal at lowdose than the smoking.

I don't see one suck a month of fine extract to be seriously harmful for your lungs, provided you don't smoke other things like tobacco or pot which may cause things like bronchitis, asthma and lung irritation.


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Asante]
    #4110019 - 04/29/05 05:45 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Excellent news man. Thanks for the long post! I think I could fairly easily extract to pure salvinorin (I am taking organic chem lab this term, and I have plenty of experience with improvising household items for home chemistry). A freezer should be possible for most of the storage time, and hopefully any time spent in a moving van etc. won't be a huge factor. Now you've got me considering 2 kilos :smile: .


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Lun4e]
    #4110044 - 04/29/05 05:58 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

It'll last several lifetimes :smirk:

how much salvia do you smoke? it sounds like a rediculous amount anyway...
Why not buy 100g to experiment with and see how long it lasts. you can have 10 strong trips on 1g of 10x if I'm correct.

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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: stefan]
    #4110214 - 04/29/05 08:17 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

it could be as little as 10 trips on a gram of 10x if you are using a water pipe or long stemmed pipe (which you would if you though you needed a torch 'cause it's so hot), but you get more effect from less material with a short pipe and regular lighter, since it does not condense along the tubes, or overheat your lung tissue.
very important to hold this smoke in the lungs for 20 seconds (longer for more effect)
letting smoke escape or condense on long pipe tubes accounts for most of the wastage.


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4114971 - 04/30/05 02:36 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Dont forget about oral dosing.. Which would waste alot of product..

But also gives insentive to buy and grow the plant, and dont worry about it becoming illegal nobody would know what the plant looks like, its just like a normal house plant..

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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: Legoulash]
    #4115014 - 04/30/05 02:48 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

dude thats weak. 100g will last you like a month, if that. Dont be shy about smoking it, the more often you smoke the harder you trip.
The key to it is all in the technique. Ive burned half a kilo of 5x in a month, and it wouldnt be hard to burn 10x even faster. buy in bulk!


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: TheHook]
    #4620005 - 09/04/05 05:37 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

half a kilo of 5x in a month. Are you for real? thats over 16 grams of 5x a day... I find a g of 5x gets me garbled about 15-20 times... I'd think tripping 240+ times a day is a little excessive...


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: fatalerror]
    #4620024 - 09/04/05 05:44 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

Lun-
i seen a kilo at BBB for $200... check it out


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Re: 100g 10x extract = lifetime supply? [Re: theBRINK]
    #4620048 - 09/04/05 05:55 PM (18 years, 6 months ago)

This post is 4 months old you weirdos

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