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OfflineAbermelin
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Figured out what coco coir is.
    #4105626 - 04/28/05 02:30 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

its the fiberous interwoven material that grows off the stalk of palm frawns. And if its not, anyone consider using the frawn material?

so my point in saying this is, maybe wild shrooms do naturally use coco coir as a casing material


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: Abermelin]
    #4105654 - 04/28/05 02:43 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Its not and I doubt it palm frawns would work well. And they dont naturaly use it as a casing material.

Coco coir is the husk of a coconut (the outside shell) ground up.


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: Abermelin]
    #4106077 - 04/28/05 09:45 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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its the fiberous interwoven material that grows off the stalk of palm frawns. And if its not, anyone consider using the frawn material?

so my point in saying this is, maybe wild shrooms do naturally use coco coir as a casing material




i strongly doubt it, the stuff inside the nuts is protected by the shell, and dont come out easily.

and the stuff between the palm leafs usually stays put where it is, on the palm. gradually breaking into smaller pieces by the wind. dont think there would ever be any natural accumulation (lagre enough to case anything) of that either.


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: Abermelin]
    #4106090 - 04/28/05 09:52 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

rofl... you figured out what coco coir is. Did you figure out what organic HCl is yet? or why EVERY MSDS for naptha.. blah, i've already won this one. Good job solving the "what is coco coir" question that noone ever asked.


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: SoopaX]
    #4106136 - 04/28/05 10:17 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

now was all that neccessary?


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: Abermelin]
    #4106148 - 04/28/05 10:24 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

:dumblol:


Edited by kronnyQ (04/28/05 10:25 AM)


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: kronnyQ]
    #4106341 - 04/28/05 11:38 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

oh coca nut husks? hm. no, i dont think you people know what a palm frawn is. they dont grow cocanuts, their about 4 feet high, like mini palm trees, and they grow everywhere. if you ever find one, look at the stalk of the plant and rip off this fibours material thats naturally interwoven, i think it would make a great substitute for coco coir.


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: Abermelin]
    #4106674 - 04/28/05 01:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Palm: Any of various chiefly tropical evergreen trees, shrubs, or woody vines of the family Palmae (or Arecaceae), characteristically having unbranched trunks with a crown of large pinnate or palmate leaves having conspicuous parallel venation.
Frond: The leaf of a fern.
A large compound leaf of a palm.

Are you sure you know what a palm frond is?
I think Horse hair would make a great replacement for coco coir too.


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: Crasher]
    #4107664 - 04/28/05 06:08 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

thats how ive always referred to em, i dont know the techincal name for em. they grow all over florida, making up the majority of its underbrush. i think their also called palmetto bushes (sp?). Ive never seen this material on any other plant in the palm family.

The reason i brought this up was to make aware that a coco coir type material grows freely and in abundance whereever palmetto bushes are located. You *can* buy horse hair, but i think the consensus among the growing community is that not everyone has a ton of money to throw into their projects, the cheaper and more resourceful, the better.


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: Crasher]
    #4107723 - 04/28/05 06:26 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Firewolf127 said:
Palm: Any of various chiefly tropical evergreen trees, shrubs, or woody vines of the family Palmae (or Arecaceae), characteristically having unbranched trunks with a crown of large pinnate or palmate leaves having conspicuous parallel venation.
Frond: The leaf of a fern.
A large compound leaf of a palm.

Are you sure you know what a palm frond is?
I think Horse hair would make a great replacement for coco coir too.





I know exactly what you are talking about. I also agree with you, it would be interesting to see if it is a good substitute for coco coir, I think it is. If I'm ever vacationing in the Caribbean, I'll try and bring some back.


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: Tien]
    #4107904 - 04/28/05 07:12 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe next time someone goes to the stables to get poo they can ask the owner if they'd like a free haircut for their horse as well.


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: snoo]
    #4108517 - 04/28/05 09:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I guess no one caught that I was joking. But hey, people have suggested nearly everything else for a substrate, right?


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: Crasher]
    #4109311 - 04/29/05 01:24 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

casing, not substrate. But i guess it could be used in a substrate. From the crazy shit that roger guy was growing mushrooms out of, it seems like you can grow mushrooms out of almost anything organic.


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Re: Figured out what coco coir is. [Re: Abermelin]
    #4109854 - 04/29/05 05:21 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I grew up in Tampa Bay, Port Charlote, Punta Gorda...I know what palm fronds are, trust me. I do not believe that it would make a good casing. You dont want fiberous. Coir that is to stringy dries out to easy and sucks ass. Note these casings:



Dry, coir :thumbdown:

Check out non fiberous (stringy) peat compared:


Much better casing mix...very nice dirt/soil feel to it. Not fiberous.


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