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I Demand The Truth About McMan
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Greetings Shroomerites,

I have never posted to these forums but have spent many hours learning from this wonderfull resource over the last years. In fact the Shroomery was my introduction to the OMC.

Recent events at The Forest Floor have caused me to register today to bring what I view as a serious issue back to where it originated....and in my view where it should be aired. This out of respect for the host of FF and as it is getting somewhat out of hand...despite our graceous hosts expressed wishes in the thread in question :

http://www.theforestfloor.org/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=16&topic=72&start=0

The primary and most important information contained in this thread in my view is the implication that McMan has conducted himself in a manner that is SERIOUSLY out of line for anyone in the OMC...much less a vendor. I am refering to the implication that he has attempted to blackmail other well known and highly respected members of the OMC and perhaps perpitrated other unsavory and unethical acts as well.

I DEMAND TO KNOW THE TRUTH !!

If you are involved in this PLEASE speak up.

Thank You

Edited by UmaGuma on 10/02/01 01:37 AM.



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: UmaGuma]
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they can't handle thetruth....

Take a trip to the Spore Lab @:
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: UmaGuma]
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Well Uma...

I, and a limited group of others, saw the email that McMan sent to Anno sometime last week. It has been kept in the underground until now...

From the looks of it, McMan BLATANTLY threatened and blackmailed Anno (a reliable and very well priced spore provider) with police action. He said that he would have one of the orders to Anno sent to a narc and/or the authorities.

Call me ol' fashioned, but I don't take to kindly to folks who threaten to have my ass thrown in jail, and CERTAINLY not the type of person id want my name/address to be with for ordering some stupid-ass 5-gallon bucket.

Methinks McMan has a community of thousands to do some explainin' to :)

peace and light
camel

Edited by camel on 10/01/01 09:24 PM.



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: camel]
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OH BTW! Here's an exact copy of the email he sent complete with headers:



Edited by Yoschie99 on 10/02/01 12:53 PM.



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: camel]
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McMan, you are a one pathetic bitch, you must be one of the most worthless pieces of shit I have never had the pleasure not to know.

I do not hide either, If you feel like threatening me you can search around and find me. I am everywhere.

You are a prick and hide behind yourself and your minions. Sock Puppet happy motherfucker.

I hope you get what is coming to you. You have indeed brought many things to the community but at what price? The 1000 Trash Can and now the fucking $200 5 gallon bucket...give me a fucking break..please really someone give me a fucking break. One can be easily made for $75 and i would use a rubbermade garbage can. Fuck you and the five gallon bucket you rode in on.

You could prolly get a good job in the mob extrorting people or doing sidejobs in terroristic threatening. You are a sad excuse for a human being. I hope your are nicer to your family than you are to the people you fuck. Come clean, aren't you really just here to show us your obvious knowledge while all the while only trolling for customers for your wares. Why don't you tell the fuckin truth you blackmailing cocksucker.

Remember pkeffect, remeber you are fucking with my friends, and remeber that not only do I personally think you are shit, but a nice following has been brewing in the shallows. Soon the wrath of the communtiy is going to come down on your lieing ass. And then who are you gonna cry to.

By the way, I saw that pic you posted of your package from intell you blackmailing prick...need i say more to you bitch


Tell the truth...quit hiding...quit being a bitch...and quit sucking up on everybodies ass. You don't fool me or the people I know one bit. I can't believe your sharade has gone on this long. You are a disrespectful son of a bitch.

Life is like...well...you know...


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: UmaGuma]
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Well, I have some things to say.
I (and a few others) had a discussion with McMan in a thread about him posting pictures at his site that don?t show the actual mushroom strain that is advertised, but a different strain.
While this thread developed, it also turned out that not only he used the wrong pictures, but that this picture has been graphicaly edited to show a more abundand flush. McMan has partially admited that he used wrong pictures, but didn?t admint the (very obvious) editing of the pictures.
Anyway, the thread developed to a flame war more or less until it was closed by a mod.
In a different thread there was the discussion about McMan having a sockpupet, thedm9.
I was prety convinced he had one and i expressed this.
Off course McMan didn?t like this and told me this both in the thread and in PM quite determined.

Then on the next morning I find this email in my mailbox:

I also made a screenshot of the mail including the header. I whitened out the address to which the email was forwarded from my anno.nymer@gmx.at address, since this is my private address that doesn?t play any role in the whole thing.


I couldn?t belive this!! He threatens me with the police!!

I was prety upset.
First thing I did was to notify the administrators of the shroomery about this.
Then I left over the weekend and the whole situation settled a bit. I wasn?t at all sure if I should make this whole shit public at the shroomery.
Until NuShroompharmer lit the fire again at The forestfloor. He accused me of faking this email!!
So I had to react.

I hate to see this get ugly, but I think the community should know about this since I and others took this threat very seriously. I don't think I deserved that treatment, and I am shocked at the behavior of Mcman.....





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Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
because you will never, ever get it out.
Thomas Cardinal Wolsey (1471-1530)

Edited by Yoschie99 on 10/02/01 12:56 PM.



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: camel]
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And now the shit hits the fan.

I would like to ask that all remarks made henceforth regarding this issue be kept to this thread. We don't need the general operation of this forum to be compromised as a result of this incident.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.



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The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Anno]
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NuShroomPharmerII, you are a dumbass also.


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Anno]
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Well while it is possible to digitly edit anything.... its starting to disturb me how many people are getting so upset at McMan. I hope that peace can me made somehow. However any legal threat should be taken with a grain of salt. He is in the same boat, and besides, if things were not legal how could anyone stay afloat?

>>Jammer>>


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan
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Why would Anno fake it in the first place?
Not everyone is as juvenile as you're making yourself look, Nu....


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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Ummm, did you notice the details you pulled up are not for my email. The title of the pop up window says "Lost Password"


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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Yes you should because that didn't prove a damn thing.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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Well, I don?t have to prove you anything, Nushroom.
If you don?t belive it, then don?t.

BTW, this is a very poor fake you presented there.
If you display the properties of an email, then the title of the properties window is the same as that of the original email....and so on.
But I?m sure that you will manage to present me a convincingly looking falsifikate, you are web- and graphicdesigner after all, I?m not.
But I think you are waisting your time, people are not stupid.


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because you will never, ever get it out.
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: camel]
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hmmmm.......maybe people ARE ready for the truth!

Take a trip to the Spore Lab @:
http://www.SporeLab.com
email: getspores@sporelab.com

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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yes, like the one with the mushrooms in it.

He somehow manages to breathe in his sepia, wounded-tea, liquid ambiance suspension.


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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Anybody who supports McMan on this matter may as well post a scan of their badge right now.

I take threats like this very seriously. This to me is like yelling "BOMB!" in an airport. You do NOT do it joking or not... And as is obvious by that email it was NOT a joke...

And how dumb can you be NuShroom? Don't you think if Anno were to fake the screenshot that he'd have posted it right away instead of consult others as to what to do about the situation? Like I said, I knew about this threat and saw the message nearly a week before now, when this is all starting to come out...

Suck it Nushroom and McMan
camel



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: camel]
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I here-by start a petition to ban Mcman's ass. Better yet ban his ICQ. Anyone who would make threats like that is a scum bag.

Edited by Dead Shaman on 10/01/01 10:31 PM.


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Dead Shaman]
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Agreed.


Cold....very.....cold..

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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How in the fuck did you make that?

I admit it, Im a fungal-feliac :wink:
Support the FSR!


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Dead Shaman]
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Im with ya on that one!

Ban his ass!

And even better... LET'S BOYCOT HIS STUPID 5-GALLON BUCKET BIZNESS

peace
camel



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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You still used the details of an email that had actually been sent to you so you didn't have to change the detail box title (seeing as how it would be harder with the gradient background) and you moved the details box so that there is a clean white area to work with so that you can cut that out and put in what you wanted much easier.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: camel]
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I am neutral here.  I am not against Mcman, as he delivers what I hear to be a great product.  I am not against Anno, as I have dealt with him (recently) and he proves to be an overall great guy.  I have no way of proving either way who is right or who is wrong.  I wish I could point fingers and blame people, but as I have not been thouroughly convinced in either direction (and Nushroom providing that very real looking screenshot doesnt help) I remain on neither side here.

Not that anyone cares as I have probably been misinformed (I have only seen two posts here at the shroomery to base all of my knowledge on this subject upon).  That's my $0.02.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: pyromaniac]
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This is bullshit. I seen the email tp Anno a half hour after he got it. NuShroom.

FUCK OFF!

Yeah I am a asshole..

Life is like...well...you know...


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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It's pretty obvious who the fake is around here.

I third the motion to ban macspam.

He deserves it.

Take a trip to the Spore Lab @:
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
    #410653 -

Sorry to sisapoint you, but you are wrong.
I let all of my emails that are sent to my different accounts forward to one acount. That?s why the information shows up when I RECEIVE an email, but not when I SEND it. Can you understand this? Probabaly not, I?m waisting my time with you....

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Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
because you will never, ever get it out.
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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Perhaps he is using the SMTP server from the email account its being forwarded from, or else there is no reason to have your email forwarded to a private acct if you are going to be giving the details out with every mail.

darkfly

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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BTW, here is another screenshot of the mail, so you can finetune your fake a bit.


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Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
because you will never, ever get it out.
Thomas Cardinal Wolsey (1471-1530)

Edited by Yoschie99 on 10/02/01 01:02 PM.



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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noshroom does tony have his arm up your ass or what?

Here from a friend to you...
Looks to me like McMan already has his arm up your ass...you sure seem to do a lot of speaking for him...and he for you to a lesser degree. What's up with that shit?

--Uma Guma


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: darkfly]
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>Perhaps he is using the SMTP server from the email account its being forwarded from
Exactly.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahaa
That was the GREATEST joke I heard in the last year!
ROFL!!!!

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because you will never, ever get it out.
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: pkeffect]
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He fights all mcmans battles even at ff. After he delibertly started a fight that got us both banned, mcman emailed me saying he had wanted to prove I could get banned.

Being a puppet sure made it easier to win that free hydrothingy.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: ]
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i think mcman needs to say its fake for this argument to go on. otherwise its worthless; nushroom saying its fake doesnt make it so, comp manipulations show it could have been done- but just because something "could" be done doesnt mean it was. until mcman says something, all weve got is ... well, nothing. a bunch of comp images and comp arguments when the real question should be asked to mcman-

did you do this?

anything else is speculation- nothing is achieved by speculation. when the answer comes, then we can argue some more. but mcman hasnt said its real/fake- and i know hes articulate enough to respond for himself. im not saying not to talk- but talking for other people gets us nowhere.

thank you for posting this anno. i appreciate that you wanted to keep it private, but you can see it is important to all of us.



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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Where is McMan? I've seen him on a couple times since the thread started. Seems like he is avoiding the truth.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Anno]
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Hey what is the little kilroy "JAP" thing on your toolbar? What program is that? I DEMAND to know the fucking truth.
and why is your Outlook in kraut?

Mcman is a penishead, btw.


Edited by PGF on 10/01/01 11:50 PM.



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: oscill8]
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I'm sure McMan has said plenty in this very thread.



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“Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.”  -- Thomas Jefferson

The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance.

The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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>BTW maybe ANNO sent his FAKE email threw McMan's mail server
Off course, and I also wrote the above post from your shroomery account...
So you is actually me.....or is it the other way around...don?t know...

Man, how can you be so blind??

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: oscill8]
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I have a PM from mcman that he admits to emailing anno, and then a PM where he turns around and denies it.

He mentions in the PM that Nushroom suggested he make this threat to get anno off his back......

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Thor]
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Oooops

LMFAO

Life is like...well...you know...


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: PGF]
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>Hey what is the little kilroy "JAP" thing on your toolbar? What
>program is that?
http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html

>and why is your Outlook in kraut?
Cause I live in a kraut country, Austria.

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because you will never, ever get it out.
Thomas Cardinal Wolsey (1471-1530)


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: UmaGuma]
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Hi everyone. I'm a new guy around here and I'm the type of guy that generally enjoys stirring up the shit. I've been banned from more sites that I can remember. But I'm not here to cause shit today. Your community is a good one and believe it or not, a real benefit to reform in America in that it presents another view available to all willing to drop by. There is a very real war being waged against us by our government in the name of the war on drugs. The government enjoys watching us disintegrate as we feed on ourselves and thereby enable them to wage their evil war.

McMann and Anno are our brothers in the trenches.

I don't know if McMann sent that email or not. I don't really care. Show me one among us that hasn't sent an email in the heat of anger that we don't regret.

Let's stick together and whip some PROHIBITIONIST ass!

Leaf


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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I make it a rule to not believe what you write.

In reply to:

I make my threats public and would encourage other to do so. Not to do pussy little threats.


You mean like McMan's threats in private?
In reply to:

Where the fucks your screen shoot Thor? If your going to play, play by the rule. lol


My screenshot, you mean you want me to post the PM McMan sent me? What would McMan say about that?

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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NSPII

>"Your right, but folks are lossing $$ to McMan and Ralph..."<

I'm sure candle makers lost a lot of money to Thomas Edison.

The big difference is that back then the government wasn't committing genocide against people who used light bulbs.

Like I said, let's stick together people...

And kick some prohibitionist ass.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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NuShroom, what the hell does that mean?

Why don't you just shut the fuck up. Damn you are way in over your head.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: ]
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I belive that everyone here can agree to that. Aman Brother. Anyway, I'm going to mind my p's & q's on this one. I just wanted to say (if I may)... IS THIS THE FASTEST GROWING THREAD OR WHAT??

Now I will procede to shut up. (no ofense!)

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Jammer]
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Can't say i'm surprised (i read this email a few days ago and IT IS GENUINE!) and it was only a matter of time before it was going to surface.

I hope this will open up everyones eyes to see what person McMan (McSpam, Tony) really is.
I wonder however why he hasn't replied (under his own name) to this yet. I'm sure he's making up a nice well formulated excuse and will point the finger back at all of us.

Oh, and Tony, if you are deleting all of your old posts here because you fear that your privacy/anonimicy is at stake, you'd better also remove your other website from the net. Wasn't that hard to find out your personal details......hell, there's even a pic of your face on it

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Noshroom, did i say that you were Tony? If so, please quote me....

Are you turning this into an "who has the most people with our link in their sig" arguement? That's pathetic! The only thing that proves is that WE don't have sockpuppets to support our business.
So from now on holding a contest is also bad business practice? I think the winners of those contests would beg to differ.

I think that at this moment there's only one person making a bigger fool out of himself than McSpam is.......

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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Well, here is another email, this time from Micronmagick.com, that, As Nushroom will confirm, I didn?t actually get, but have faked it ;)

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The point is, you are blackmailing me, sending emails pretending being someone else....
I wonder how your customers and your potential customers like this fact.

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> If I did blackmail you were IS the ultimatium?

What about this?: >Now will you send me the email?

I newer said you were McMan, but you are replying instead of him.
Call him in, let?s him say something about the whole situation.
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What i meant to say is the same as Anno is saying (although i may have used the wrong words)
In reply to:

I newer said you were McMan, but you are replying instead of him.



In reply to:

cause I'm done for awhile


Good, this gives McMan the oppurtunity to speak for himself. He has to now, since you are (were) the only one defending him. (that is, if he still dares to show his face around here)

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Una]
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This whole thing is just bad for the shroomery. I pray that it's over soon.




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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Learyfan]
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*dances, I was right about McMan, I was right! WooHOO I thought I was the only one.. I thought everyone else thought him to be the greatest! Damn, it feels so good to know I wasn't going insane. This isn't good for the shroomery? The point of this site, and I quote "This site was created to help stop the spread of dangerous misinformation" sure, thats not the exact meaning.. but god damnit this is related McMan is a bag of poo, his ass was dangling ever closer to the fan and as senor doobie said finaly hit it =) NuShroom, I'm done the logo and "site enhancments", but I won't be able to get the banner done until I get the cd with the original banner template off my friend. Take care, and please know that Anno is NOT lying. I don't know if your trying to cover your own ass by protecting McMan since Thor said McMan said it was your idea, if this is the truth then you should not worry.. Afterall, McMan has allready sold you out. Messaging an admin of the shroomery saying that it was your idea is nothing less then that. This is a terrible thing, the kind of thing that could shatter the community. What if everyone had to fear ever order or trade which they did? How long would this place last? I don't care who's idea it was, IT WAS A FUCKING BAD ONE.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Jared]
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Mcman and Ralpster are negative creeps.
Jared many individuals knew it, but most of them where way too polite.
I do not get the idea of politeness. Please people do not be polite to me if you do not speak what you think. Because I will find it out somehow, and you will be the history for my self.
It happened to ralphster time ago, and know it is going worse and worse because shit allways finishes on the see level.

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I think McMan's/ralphster's silence speaks louder than just about anything in this thread or the one at FF.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: psilocyber]
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Yeah, i too got a PM from Ralph in which he apologised, asking what was up, and if McMan had been threatening me too (he hasn't, what could be blackmail us with?)

I really hope you make the right choice Ralph!

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: UmaGuma]
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Usually McMan & Ralph (including sockpuppets) are on the sidelines taunting people at every heated drama here at the shroomery. Now when they are in the ring they are nowhere to be seen. I wonder why???? I'ts because each one is a sock puppet of the other one. Thereforfe if neither one is real then both are not real. How they managed to rack up so many posts and so manty dollars I don't know but right now they are just peering on hoping this will die down quietly. And that it will die even more quitely if they just stare in silence.

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I guess that they are product of captain jack....he allways does that kind of shir ;)

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Una]
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I think I should mention Ralph has been shocked about this whole situation, no need to quote him, but I do know he's keeping quiet for the same reason many have, to hear what McMan has to say.

Nushroom says he's taking a month break from this, and I think I read somewhere that McMan is not going to be responding and keeping away.

Let me say this, since me and 3D took over I have never seen the likes of the aggrivation McMan and Nushroom have put us through. Things started out fine, McMan was even offering me legal advice. Then I started to see things that troubled me, lets just say McMan made an outrageous request for me to do something that would hurt Ryche considerably.

From that point on I became concerened, that there was some other motive behind the scenes. I however did my best to move on and see what happens.

Anyways, since those days can you all honestly see that when big flame wars erupt its often involved with nushroom and mcman. Its blatantly obvious with nushroom, this guy really has it in for me, constantly bad mouthing me and trying to get me down to his level. I'm tired of all this BS, yes this is all bad for the community, of that I can agree with 100%

But what do we do, ignore the accusations, allow Nushroom to continue to stir up shit anytime he can... No way, and believe me this has all gone on too long and I for one am not here to provide a battleground for Nushroom and to a degree McMan to stir up shit at every oppertunity.

I've even seen that the good folks at Forest Floor are also sick of this BS, and I think maybe its time we take action as admins.

Nushroom if you want to continue to attack me personally and take it upon yourself to stir up shit there will be repurcussions. You have a business, and I think you know that the Shroomery is important for that, you should learn to at least give us some respect otherwise you can get the fuck off our website. I'm not taking any more of your personal attacks and bullshit lies.

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FungusFarmer I like your style:

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Too true...now what???????

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: FungusFarmer]
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Well, that was a long thread to read through....

Damn, there are a lot of drama queens in this group! I think we need to lock them in a dark room and let them scratch each other's eyes, maybe then they'd feel better.

Honestly, what strikes me after reading all this crap is it's all amongs the folks who have some kind of financial interest in this, and yet, the Paypal numbers posted in the thread show what kind of money everyone's pissing over. So Ryche has 220 orders in the last YEAR AND A HALF through Paypal, if that was half his orders, and they averaged $50 per order, you're talking about a gross of a little over $20K in 18 MONTHS. Even if it was 1/4 his orders you're taking $25K per year gross. Shit! None of you people are idiots, there's a hell of a lot easier ways to make a lot more money without this kind of aggravation.

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Ok... just to let everyone know.. I did remove the e-mails that were posted here... minus the fakes.. which I will get to.
Posting PM's has always been a no here... and e-mails are about the most private message that you can get.

I understand everone wants the truth to be known... but this isn't the way to go about it. McMan has said to me that he isn't going to really defend himself here. All he wants to do is run his business. You guys are obviously free to make your own judgements on this situation... but really i see the contiuance of this thread to be tiring if the person you are attacking isn't going to defend themself. I'm not going to close this thread.. because it would just continue somewhere else...

Personally... I think this whole thing has been rather stupid from the beginning. McMan is obviously not in the right to make threats against anyone. It's not how I would have handled the situation.. but he's a different person. I personally don't see it as any more than an idle threat made in haste and anger. He felt as if his business was being attacked due to the thread made about his pictures before. I think that thread should never have been posted in the first place. It was obviously there for no reason other than to start shit, IMO. Threads like these really don't do anyone any good and look bad for the entire supposed "community" that we have here.

I'd really like to see everyone just carry on with their lives here. McMan and ralph have always delivered there product which should be of most concern here. So have *most* of the other vendors... there really aren't too many bad guys hanging around here...

just keep it civil and maybe move on if you can..



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I wasn't really saying you had anything to do with it ralph.

All I can say is, this would have never happened if McMan wouldn't have made a threat (even if it was idle).

I for one am very glad Una pointed out the pictures to the community. If nobody looks for people misleading others or they don't make their findings public, then how will we ever know if anyone is misleading the community?

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: ralphster44]
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I think that thread should never have been posted in the first place. It was obviously there for no reason other than to start shit, IMO. Threads like these really don't do anyone any good and look bad for the entire supposed "community" that we have here.
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Umm it was not put there to start shit, it was put there to let everyone in this 'community' know what may be going on without their knowledge. And they do everyone good who reads them and formulates a purchase decision based on the 'facts' layed out. And if you dont think this thread should have been posted in the first place, thats the same as saying you dont care if vendors ( do or do not, I dont know) threated other members of the board.

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sorry ralph, that was directed to yoschie, not u

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: psilocyber]
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Psilocyber, thanks for the info. I'm sure you guys do OK, but having run a mail order business for 7 years, all I can say is more power to you, I know how big your gross really has to be to make any money. I had years where my gross was over 1/2 million, and I was taking home about 30K by the time everybody got their cut of it. Let's just say that probably nobody is making enough for all this back-stabbing and bickering, regardless of who did what to whom. You and Anno are first-rate as far as I'm concerned, and while the Ralphster sometimes gets a little emotional and says things he later regrets, he DOES regret them later and does so publicly, and IMHO he's done a lot of good overall.

I don't know McMan, but it sure seems like things are always breaking and voices raised when he's around. He seems to know a lot about cultivation, but sure ruffles a lot of feathers at the same time. I guess I'm just saying we should all take a break from the topic for a week or two and see what settles out.

Is this all happening just because we don't have Hippie to kick around any more? What's the deal with that?


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Yoshie: You're actions are unexcusable... As they say, the proof's in the pudding, and you have tried to eliminate the proof!

The public DESERVES to know and see exactly what McMan threatened against Anno, because this IS INDEED a VERY serious matter. How would you like it if a vendor threatened to have YOUR ASS thrown in jail? I think you'd dislike it very much indeed.

It seems to me that you're just sucking McMan's slimey dick in this thread instead of doing your duty as a moderator and allowing the laymen to see the facts for themselves. You're job as a moderator is dispicable at best.

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To all involed:
As usual I have stayed out of this mess--I always do. Notice my name rarely appears in the negative here or elsewhere. I attribute this to not allowing myself to be suckered into getting trapped into these long drawn out saop operas--the he said, she said shit.
I am very surprised at some of the names I have been seeing in the threads about McMan and ralph--all the way from the pic issue, to this. The people that I respect for never getting involved in this sort of stuff have let themselves be suckered into this game. It is truly a shame.
I have found out that if you ignore this sort of stuff it saves you alot of hassle in the future--you don't accidentally say things that may come back to haunt you, your name never gets drug through the mud, you don't have to WASTE time defendeing yourself or your good name, and lastly by not contributing to such nonsense you do not contribute to the ONGOING of such threads.
I hate the fact that these threads take up so much time and space here--it is a shame.
If no one keeps these threads going they fizzle out--that's how all posts of this nature should be handled in my opinion. If I had my way I would close all threads like this--They are very UNproductive. The only problem would be that some ass hole would just start a new thread. This place needs a bitchin forum for this sort of stuff so it will quit cluttering up the other forums--espeially this one.
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You people must be fucking idiots. Yes bad.....all is bad here....A vendor threatened another vendor with police....that is fucking uncalled for.....and ralph i know you are a good guy buy why are you changing your words now????

This dose need to be stopped now!!!!!!!!!!

So mcman, step and to the mic......

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Alls I know is Anno does no wrong as far as the community goes.

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Camel, sorry you feel that way. As a moderator... i am supposed to hold up the rules of this site no matter what. I'm not choosing sides here... unlike everyone else... I'm just doing my job.

that's all I have to say to you...

thank you and goodbye...


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Yoschie99]
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In reply to:

As a moderator... i am supposed to hold up the rules of this site no matter what.



Well here's a quote from the frontpage:

"Hello and welcome to the Shroomery! This site was created to help stop the spread of dangerous misinformation"

By deleting the evidence, you are the root and CAUSE of the misinformation in this instance. Are you sure you're doing your job as a moderator?

A concerned member of the underground...
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: CACA]
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It seems many can't tell the difference between skilled/intelligent/respectable amateur Mycologists/Spore providers like Anno, Psilocyber, Workman, and Una and the average sporepimp. To me there is a major difference as far as credibility is concerned and the amount of respect one should be given.

Personally I have little respect for the average sporepimp and their credibility, the only thing most of them take serious is the money, I have nothing but respect for those I listed above. The others can be replaced by anyone, I have a better setup than the avg sporepimp(microscope, Flow hood, Eberbach, bacti-cinerator, etc.) and I'm not even cultivating at the moment.

Not sure what I'm trying to say, just that I've never met Anno, Sporeworks, or Una, but have the utmost respect for all 4 of the guys and am confident that they have very strong ethics.


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: camel]
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I am quite sure that I am.
There are a couple of rules that we go by for editing posts... the new supplier policy, personal info(names, adress,etc), and PM's. While this wasn't a shroomery PM... e-mails are definately private messages. If they were meant to be seen by all.. they would have been posted here by the person that sent them.

Do you really think it's necessary for the emails to be posted? I personally don't. People are either going to believe anno and crew, believe mcman and crew.. or just not give a shit in either direction...


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: CACA]
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Hmmm, after reading the entire thread....
I think I will NOT be doing business with McMan no matter
how knowledgable about growing he is. Geez, if anything this thread lets out the secrets of some peoples true colors, and
a man who knows whats going on and doesn't stop in to make ONE SINGLE post in his own defense, looks guilty as hell to me..... When I do place my first order for syringes/prints it certainly won't be thru McMan.... Take care all

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newbie- (i feel weird calling you that! ::laughing:: ) mcman's spore page and sales are seperate from his hydrapod page and is run by another totally different person- ralphster44. i dont think many people here (on the site, or in this thread for that matter) doubt r's credibility or product. read up on ralph when youre interested in spores :)



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: 3DSHROOM]
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You know what pisses me off, I posted in the suggestion forum about the Hydropod being false advertising. Then 3D came in with a defense, now what gives 3D? I was nice about it but now Im laughing as I see its all blowing up in your face. I knew all along when all the spamming started that McMan was just out to make a buck. And his pissie ass pictures are still fakes - as I said before.

I personally think you and Thor should just pipe out of it and let the community argue about this. Also, who is this Yosich99 editing all the posts with the emails? I am just being honest you guys, you are really going to loose people by switching the side of the fence you are on day by day.

Im sure Ryche is just rolling holding his belly. McMan never produced a picture of the Hydropod in action, he could of had a friend do so. He says he has kids, wife, and thats great - stay the fruck out of the buisness then!

Karma is having it way now and I applaude. Yes Im being a dick, I never get any, and I mean any replies from useful stuff I post anywhoo, who cares.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Ozone]
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Here is the post I made awhile back.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum7&Number=401515&Forum=Forum7&Words=false%20advertising&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=3weeks&Main=401515

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: oscill8]
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oscill!

LOL! I used the term newbie because I have worked in online porn for the last 6 years and thats what we call webmasters new to the world of porn, newbies!
LOL!! So I figured my first name when I was meeting everyone should reflect my status, for better or worse!!!

Hmmm, as far as doubting credibility, still, it bothers me when someone knows they are being flamed, and don't even make one post about it. I have been using message boards and have pissed with multimillionaires as well as the lowest ottom feeders. One thing I have learned is that people with credibility will often NOT give in and piss ( message board arguments ) all day into a board. but they usually post their side once, if they are in the right. People who let others defend them usually have something to hide, for a recent example, how about Gary Condit? I'll never vote democrat again.... LOL!
Anyway, maybe if you can, throw me some urls and I will check them them out, and continue to make my own decisions gathered from info I find posted to the boards! Thank you for your opinions though! And, with a little more time and some urls to look at, maybe I will change my mind :) And, as far as interest in spores, well, I am interested right now, get my new place on the 6th, and ready to buy this week. Thats why I read the entire thread in the first place, and thats why i am reading ALL of the threads I possibly can!
Nice ta meet you, will see you around I am sure!

Take care!

Mikey

newbie- (i feel weird calling you that! ::laughing:: ) mcman's spore page and sales are seperate from his hydrapod pageand is run by another totally different person- ralphster44. i dont think many people here (on the site, or in this thread forthat matter) doubt r's credibility or product. read up on ralph when youre interested in spores :)



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Ozone]
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>Also, who is this Yosich99 editing all the posts with the emails?
I also feel that why. Why not let the community decide based on the things that were originaly posted?
About posting emails and PMs: I?m the last one to make a "normal" email or or PM public, since Yoshee is right on this, it is a private thing.

BUT it looses all the private character if someone threatens you with the police or otherwise in it!! You can bet that I wll post any further mails with that content (though I really hope there won?t be any more....)

For everyone that is interested in the original, unedited thread, I put it on a server for everybody to read it here, since I don?t have to hide anything.

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Edited by Anno on 10/02/01 04:46 PM.



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I also got a PM from McMan a few days ago, I have no idea why. Its about 3D and Thor, but I will not post it because I am not like that. I respect people even when I disagree with them.

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bobaloo you do not ge some things, do you?
First of all: I never had any use of my flaming toward ralph. All that happened about my flaming was that community thinks that I am a dick.
Second of all. I am here since its first begining, and did buisness with many spore vendors.
I realise a long tiem ago what kind of asshole ralph is, and if you look a little bit closer I never bashed any other vendor much as him.
Third thing, when some shitty person mentions that spore vendors feel threatened by ralphs bussines, let me ask you how can annos buissnes interact with their, if annos prices are half of ralphsoles? And he lives in Europe for christs sake.
Fourth thing, if you where here for a while, you will notice that neither Anno or Workman never did any thing that could ruin their reputation!!! So why would anno do all of this if you think rationally?
Sixth thing: Read history of ralphsters bussines progress on this BB and my comments on it!!!! I predicted all his steps, knowing what kind of asshole ralph is!!!
If you answer all six things, than you can keep your comments in this forum. If you do not do that, there is no use of you, and that is called flaming....

Goodby, ralph RIP.

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>I respect people even when I disagree with them.

Sorry, but I loose all my respect for people who threaten me with the police. It?s not about disagreeing. It?s about threats.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Anno]
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I can understand Anno. It was just a PM about thoughts on the ownership here, not real bad, just concern. But why he sent it to me, I have no clue.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NewbieShroomer]
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So Mcman was indeed making banners that had nothing to do with the product he was actually selling... Or does he actually sell the species of mushroom that he used for the banner... If he DOES sell that type of mushroom, then, no worries.

If he was ADVERTISING magic mushrooms and using the non magic kind pictures for his ads, well, thats pretty e'ffed up. I would like to know what the case is with this. I am a newbie and can be influenced by such, unless certain people stay on top of things and make sure that people like me don't get duped. False or misleading advertising might seem ok to some, but not to me.
if he was indeed using false advertising everyone should know, and if not, he should be getting some apologies.

Or maybe I have screwed this whole debate up and am way off track.... Is that the case?

So, whats the deal?

Mikey



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Ozone]
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Looks like their is a little bit of thetruth in all of us! Crobih, camel, others, it's good to see people finally seeing what I and Crobih have always seen.

It was right of Una to start this thread, it is wrong of the mods to try to stop it or delete the 'evidence'. These are serious charges against someone who has tried to promote himself as 'clean' while at the same time, running a little smear campaign against others, namely, myself.

Wonder why he isn't posting any 1000 word essays?
Must be hiding.

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Nice compilation.
What you forgot to post is the the link to the original, uncensored post about the McMans threat to me:
http://annonymer.members.easyspace.com/mcman/mcman.htm


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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>Thanks for the compliment on the "Micron Magick Spore Spreader" in the PM.
You?re welcome.
> However I DO NOT like to be bash in public and play nice in
>PM. That why I like McMan.....
>.....In my mind the jury still out on you Anno on whether your
>friend or foe.
My PM to you started with the words:
"I thought posting a reply to your thread, but I?m not sure if it?s appropriate right now."
Why do you think was that?

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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dude, nobody is trying to get the hydrapod copyrights!!

for once, if you want a hydropod, i suggest you look into "Emily's Garden" (a hydroponic system that works in the same basic elements as the pod).
it only costs $70 or so and it holds up to three times more cakes than the pod...

it even comes with geolite.



i believe there are people who still havent seen the real side of all this....


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This is so crazy. I am REALLY new to this site. Started posting as of yesterday, or the day before and already smelling the drama. In a nutshell, WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

Who Actually owns The shroomery, Is it the moderators?
If not, where did they come from?

Why are all of the vendors arguing?
Are any of them really thieves?
Or is the mudslinging unwarranted?

I have to be honest, this thread is the most interesting reading across the boards. It sure would be nice if someone who has been watching this scenario from the beginning who is NOT a vendor to explain the rivalries in laymans terms.

Because, to be honest, with all the sh*t being flung back and forth, it's really hard to tell whats what. Hmmmmm, maybe thats the answer, baffle with bullsh*t. Anyways... I personally plan to stick my nose where it probably doesn't belong and continue researching this thread, as well as any that might have something to do with it... Because being new to all of this, and accidentally falling into a room where some of the people that fund the advertising for the shroomery is REALLY interesting.

And the fact that I want to buy like yesterday.... Well that makes it all the more fascinating. To be honest, I probabaly won't buy from anyone thats in here arguing, at least, not until I can either sort it out or find someone who can for me. But, you guys are getting ridiculous. Do you realize that people who buy from you are reading this thread? Look at the page views. Does business from the shroomery mean that little? Or do you already have such a solid base that the mudslinging matters not? Anyway, after all the years I have spent on message boards, I find I am still attracted to the smell of piss and bullshit...
Carry on guys, don't mind me, or the rest of the shroomery regulars who are watching... No, really, don't mind us, keep it going, can't wait to see what happens next. And since i'm here, you guys have any specials at the moment, besides any you might have already mentioned in this thread?

LOL!

Take care!

Mikey



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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NuShroom, are you a fucking moron, I am begining to...no I have known that something is terribly wrong with you and someone has there hand mighty far up your colon...

I would suggest you just shut the fuck up and step aside or be prepared to be shit upon....I hate being the ass can't you tell?

So shut your dicksuckers...they are digging you a whole you will never get out of....


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: pkeffect]
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So you guys remember that drink "orbitz"?

Edited by MeltingPenguin on 10/02/01 06:27 PM.



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: hongus]
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>look into "Emily's Garden"

so where can I cop that at?


no comment. errrggghhh


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>>look into "Emily's Garden"

>so where can I cop that at?

http://www.igcusa.com/emilys_garden.htm

But it?s not the same as the Hydrapod, it?s not an ebb&flow system, it would need quite some aditional constructing and parts , but it?s probably a good base to start with if you want to build something similar as the pod yourself.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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NuShroom if you take that as a threat you pussy, then you can pm me if you like and we will have a little talk otherwise people will just keep looking at you like a shitstained sock puppet happy idiot.

Here is my email pkeffect@netscape.net

Hit me up, please...I am waiting..

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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>Did you actually sign up for Magick Mail?
Off course, wouldn?t want to miss a chance winning a pod...

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: MeltingPenguin]
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" So you guys remember that drink "orbitz"? "

I do, I remember that is was crazy to look at, and took a little bit of balls on my part before I could drink it!
Funky stuff! Imagine a shroom party with only orbitz to drink..... HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!!!! :0P



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Anno]
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Anno, is fungi fun yours??????
LOL! 3 bucks per slide????
Hmmmmmm, that sounds to good to be true!
1 buck per sterile syringe????
Dude, that looks to cool, I am going to look at you
a bit more this evening, and, will send the cash
in the mail tommorrow morning if you seem to be on the level!
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Anno]
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I've turned my head to a lot of McMans bullshit, but not this time.
The Hawks Eye will be taking a stand on this whole situation. I personally think its best if we do share our opinions in light of the recent turn of events by McMans actions. I have stayed out of a lot of the drama here caused by McMan and others, but these recent actions by him are much to serious for me to ignore.

His recent police threats to Anno are downright evil. All of his other shady business practices I've been informed of recently, and the fact that he emailed Thor a while back offering money to have all of my posts removed, tells me this guy is dirty. Dirty dirty dirty. But I've already known this for a long time and have been patiently waiting for his true colors to surface and the truth be known. He is a facade in my opinion.

I do not find him in any way a value to OMC. I could care less how smart he appears to be, he plays dirty.
The guy has alterior motives and that is always the vibe I have felt from him since the beginning.


Thats all I have for now, more later as I keep learning more from various sources. It seems McMan has been busy stepping on a lot of peoples toes behind the scenes.



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NuShroomPharmerII]
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>Keep in that I'm NOT going to believe the people who are
>emailing telling me your going send me cultures and set me up.
Don?t belive them, such people are in no way connected to me and I would never do anything like that.(sending you cultures if you didn?t order any)

>An I say to you coward.
To me??

>SHOW me the Facts that Anno going to set me up or shut
>the fuck up!!!! Plus stop sending me viruses or at least write
>your own. I keep my virus software up to date.
As I allready said, I would never do something like that and don?t support such actions like emailing you viruses.

To everybody who is doing such things, please stop, it doesn?t do any good to none of us.


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Anno]
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It's not really like emily's garden, if you insist on getting a large version of the hydropod in a ready mad deal. Get a 22" x 22" hydrofarm Mega Garden Or the larger version 22" x 46" Hydrofarm "ebb and Flow" I have both, they can be easily modified with an air bubbler in fact my Mega Garden is, of course it would be somewhat a waste to use it for shrooms since shrooms are pretty damn easy to grow, but whatever.
I'm sure this isn't the cheapest place, do a search.
http://www.simplyhydroponics.com/mega_garden.htm

Oh yea, you can find domes for both usually at the same store, the come with timers, pump, etc. Then when you realize how easy it is to grow shrooms and you don't need some machine to do it, you can grow some weed.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by slither on 10/02/01 09:12 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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It should also be noted that opinions and options are two entirely different words with distinctly different definitions.



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: UmaGuma]
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I'm a little disappointed to see some of the moderators taking sides in this shitfest.

Personally, I'd like to see more pictures of the Mcpod in action.
Who had the one going with the pictures of three cakes in it? Was that you workman?

Roll me a phatty and pump out them pics.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: ]
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I am a little dissapointed in the bullshit to fact ratio in this whole cluster fuck thread. Though there have no doubt been some further interesting "facts" brought to light. I can't help but believe that there is MUCH more relivant information that is yet to be seen.

It is readily aparent to anyone with the smallest measure of a clue who has spent any length of time at all in the OMC what the likely truth of the matter is at this point. There have been comments made here by members of standing in the OMC and elsewhere with reputations beyond reproach that speak volumes. And further volumes are spoken by the lack of response by McMan himself. He is known far and wide for his lengthy diatirbes and smoke screans over the most petty of issues. And the issues at hand here are SERIOUS matters.

NuShroomPharmerII, don't you think you've said plenty in relation to this matter. Your position is clear. You're really makeing yourself look like you need to go back on your meds. Mark my words: you will look even more the idiot if you keep it up...assumeing the facts are fully delineated. Of that I am certain at this point. But, you do what you see fit.

I realize that I am not a regular here, but is it to much to ask that the discussion in this thread remain at least half assed relivant to the damn issues at hand??!! There is far to much irrelevant bullshitting going on in what IMHO is a very damn serious thread concerning a very damn serious issue.

Cary on!!

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: ]
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Ohhhh, I see my name. I guess that was long enough

I did a pod test but it didn't work out too good for me and I never got mature mushrooms before I folded it up. The instructions regarding the ebb/flow pump changed over time as others worked with the pod so I think that was my main problem. Psilocyber recorded good results with a single cake and I have seen a few other good crops since then. The pod seems to work as advertised if you follow the updated instructions.

When the pod first came out I was excited about the design and thought it would be a good product to offer at the sporeworks if it tested out ok. We didn't intend to make a profit selling the pod, we just like to have original good stuff on our site. We tried to get Mcman to come in with us but he decided to go with Ralphster. A disappointment to us to be sure. Ralphster just offered more, a High Times ad, financial support. We just couldn't compete with that. Of course at the time we didn't know the behind the scenes character of Mcman and we thought he was an honorable businessman that genuinely cared about the OMC. So pod pretty good, McMan pretty bad.

Just before everything exploded on the boards, Psilocyber and I were thanking our lucky stars that we didn't get involved with McMan. We cannot tolerate threats, fraud and intent to pay off a moderater to remove a reputable vendor's posts at the Shroomery even if they are not directed specifically at the Spore Works (even though psilocyber did get at least one impotent McMan threat that I am aware of).

I wonder if Ralphster is sorry he drew the long straw?

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things smell a little fishy to me....


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anyone elses eyes hurt??
wow i'd say this is a vendors' bad-trip gone reality...
...i hate narcs...i hate underhanded tactics....
....i hate paranoia.....
...i hate bitching...

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Anno]
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....1 more thing.... ANNO & SW...YOU FUCKING ROCK!!

....yoshie....you r a piece of shit.....you put up a shitload of fog when you deleted those pix....
....YOU ARE FIRED....have a nice day :smile:

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: 40oz]
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heheheh I made one poll in poll forum..for anybody interested in this "DEBATE"

afterall you are all good people sometimes
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: 40oz]
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ANNO do some research on THE SEED BANK of Holland, just because you live outside the USA, doesn't mean you can't be charged by the USA. Sendingm cultures into the USA is illegal. You put yourself in harms way!!!! With that noted, threats of any kind, REALLY SUCK!!!
Isn't the KS the same as the Pink Buffalo, the latter just found growing from the "sacred" pink buffalo shit. Wouldn't the two shrooms be similar in appearance anyway. Why all the fuss, they did not have a picture of the Pink buffalo, so they duped the normal KS. Who cares? When you order the spores, you get what you ordered. All the P.M. nonsense, well that seems pretty Lame. Trying to get another vendor removed is LAME. Everyone has been doing it to MAX for as long as I can remember. I find it Ironic that noone defended him, and noone questioned everyones attacks on him. This shit is rediculous. Threats!!!! Anno you have to know you are breaking American laws by sending cultures, if a cop buys them from you, he will continue to buy them until the USA decides to file charges against you. They don't need another Vendor to do this. In my mind the threat is EMPTY, the threat already exists. This however does not make it o.k. Threats of any nature should not be tolerated, and I hope McMan returns one day soon, to repent. He IS a contributing member of this community. It is SAD how business taints this great hobby, but for the most part this hobby can't exist for everyone without the business. I hope this soap opera does not stop any new members from continuing with this hobby.

ALL the VENDORS who advertise here DELIVER!!!!!!!
No vendor will actually RAT you out to the cops!!!
Spores are legal in most States in the USA, cultures are NOT!!!
Pictures are always misleading, the spores you purchase RARELY come from the exact mushrooms that are shown, and what you end up growing out from these spores may not look exactly like the pictures even if they did.
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The Seed Bank owner was a US citizen and was charged and later aprehended only when he came home to visit his mother on US soil...is this not the case?

I find the bulk of your assertions increadibly naive. You decide which ones.



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Is OSAMA BIN LADEN a US CITIZEN? Sending Cultures into the USA is illegal.
He was arrested outside the USA, hence his ability to disappear and not wind up in JAIL. I think, as ironic as it is, he was arrested in AUSTRIA.

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since the pic issue arises again- what was accused was not just substituting the pic for another. it was manipulation, mirroring and adding which started all this.

anno may be breaking am laws, but hes under the radar of us officials. the accused threat would put him on their radar. do they care now about some guy overseas selling gelly-slices on the internet? no. will they care once its shipped to the police/us atty's office? maybe.

mcman has contributed a lot. and what he has been accused of needs to be seen in light of that. but sometimes, prior good works are overshadowed by something else more recent and more heinous. what the community as a whole decides what is important- that is the standard by which he will be judged. reading this thread, it seems that a threat of police action is more important and overshadows his technical and personal contributions to the OMC. its about comm. standards, and choosing what *we* think we value most. seems our safety and liberty tops off that list, and as lana has said in her post - i hope vendors remember that.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: oscill8]
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KS and KS pink buffalo are the same shroom.
Using the available technology to promote your products is not wrong. Selling a PF as a GT would be wrong.
And I agree with you that threats are bad. Even EMPTY threats. Playboy airbrushes their pictures, go complain to them about FALSE ADVERTISEMENT. Or just don't buy Playboy. Victoria Secret does the same thing, and they are selling products. Bras with no nipples showing through, but when your girlfriend buys it, NIPPLES NIPPLES everywhere?
It is the age of Technology, and I have no problem with that!!!
Apparently you do!!! And so do alot of other people here!!!
I have no problem with that either.
Mcman doesn't even run the spore section of the site, weren't you just defending Ralph in another post.

McMan please make a public apology to ANNO, so all this SHIT can pass over. I know you aren't gonna Rat him out to the cops, and I am pretty sure ANNO knows this too, but he needs to hear it from you!!!
And all of you vendors stop misrepresenting Spores as strains, they are SPORERACES. A strain would be illegal to sell in the USA. LOL
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changing what a potential buyer sees is wrong. what you can see in the pic above is the supposed pb is a prolific fruiter, and grows those bunches like in the pb pic. my problem is not the pb/ks bs, but that someone has altered a pic to make it look like one strain fruits particularly well. sure, its the same pic, but cut and pasted together, then cropped, to imply to the viewer that this is the flush the grower got. and if you believe the pic was altered, than it is NOT the result of the grower/vendor.

now, the airbrushing model thing. i dont buy women when i buy playboy. i buy pics of women, and take it as much that theyre not real- airbrushed, siliconed, whatever. but a pic - as much as ive said is simply illustrative of a strain of mushrooms - is different. i will actually have in hand something which may produce something like the pic. and the pic above implies it is a heavy fruiter- that the vendor got this dense growth, when he didnt (if you believe the cut & pasting above). (and if he cant, can i?) this is different than the women argument- 1st b/c youll never own the women or anything more than their image (they themselves are not the product, but their image); and 2d- the reasoning behind the vic's secret thing (the digital manipulations) is not the same as the reasoning behind altering the ks/pb pic. the vic's secret pic is not used cause i want to hide my nipples in a bra- if i did, the product would be made so you couldnt see them. vic's secret and others manipulate pics for reasons other than the actual use of their product (to follow your example, decency etc.)... but whats the reasoning behind the supposed alteration here? to imply certain things about a product that are not true (such as its fruiting capability). will my 1/4 lber look as shiny as the pics at mcdonalds? prolly not- but will it have everything in it thats on the pic, and will it be 1/4 lb? yes.

as for ralph, i was not attacking ralph. if you (or anyone) didnt catch the post mcman made before the threat/letter thing- he said ralph knew nothing about the digital cam mirroring/whatever. he said ralph did not supply the pics. and he said ralph did not have a hand in designing the website. my post above was made with that in mind- and if i was not explicit in acqutting ralph (in my mind at least) of the issues raised in this thread and my posts- i apologize. but i dont believe ive said anything, negative or otherwise, about ralph= and dont want anyone reading this thread to think i have anything but respect for him.



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>I know you aren't gonna Rat him out to the cops, and I am >pretty sure ANNO knows this too
Do I know this? How can you be so sure? Do you know McMan? Have you spoke to him personaly about this?

Well, I have enough of this shit.
As from today no orders for cultures and spore prints of psilocybin producing mushrooms are accepted from the USA anymore. All orders with the postal date after the 3rd of october won?t be fullfilled or anwered.
So don?t send them, or you will loose your money.

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Now that is the first Rational thing I have seen posted!!!
I wouldn't worry about the spores, but to each his own!!!!


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: oscill8]
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You have also implied alot from the manipulated picture.
And when a bra is pictured in a catalog not showing nipples, wouldn't that imply I was purchasing a bra that did not show nipples. How is this not the same thing? It is a product for sale, that is misrepresented!! Your assuming that I know Victoria secret does this for MORAL issues, just like you are assuming MCMAN altered the photo for misrepresentation.
See I am aware that the only thing that seperates KS-PB from KS is the substrate it was found on in the wild. They both come from the same region, and they both are being sold as spores not cultures. So a whole lot of assumption must take place to be so angered by the photo. I think there is some behind the scenes vendor war at play here. With all the parties being guilty. This does not justify any threats that were made!!!! And I hope MCMAN returns to apologize publicly.



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This thread has gotten off subject many times, how did it go to McMans pods? So I'll add one additional note off topic. We have grown out the thailand pb and the thai ks many times and they are indeed 2 different strains. McMan started this rumor they are one in the same, maybe he got 2 thai ks prints mislabled to begin with.
Ours were original prints brought back from thailand 2 years apart. The original specimans were printed by John Allen 2 years apart. Yes, they came from the island of Koh Samui, all of the current thailand strains out did. The 4 we carry all show different growth characteristics after growing them out many times. The Ks grows the fastest of all the thai strains, and grows much thicker and shorter then the thai pb. And I have about a dozen pics of the thai pb I just have not posted yet. From 2nd generation all the way up to the 4th. I can say with 100% assurence our thai ks and thai pb definatly show many different characteristics.
Ok..sorry off topic... shoot me.

The issue about McMan is not the fact of he is a competitor. Personally I'm glad they have that banner on High Times because that takes business away from a big scammer we all know of Spore Trading Post.
The issue of McMan is his behavior here in the community, mostly againts other vendors lately. which many of us are sick of bullshit. A lot of it we let go for a long time and new bs from him just keeps coming up. Do I really want another vendor here with all these shady actions, absolutly not.

As for Anno and cultures. Personally I dont see how cultures are illegal in the early stages. Psilocybin mycelium of several species does not produce psilocybin/psilocin until the primodoria stage. If he is sending out cultures freshly made, they are not going to produce priomodoria for several weeks if at all on agar. Just a thought.

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I believe Anno 100% He has contributed a lot to the Shroomery, and unselfishly. If he was threatened, this is wrong. Right on Camel, the public DOES deserve to know the threats made against Anno. Yes 3D the silence appears to say all. That is a good point as well Ryche.


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I have seen mushrooms growing in the same field that when cloned and cultivated looked different and acted differently. But I certainly would not refer to them as different spore races. I wouldn't use the time frame as a judge of their uniqueness. Are they growing in the wild on different parts of KS? I was under the impression, the only thing that seperated the KS-PB from the standard KS was the substrate they were found growing in. Thanks for the correction, Ryche. Maybe I should pull them both out of storage and take a looksy!!!
Peace Teonan
And I don't think it was off topic!!!


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Floydster]
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This thread has gotten very off track and I feel it's "useful" life has been exceeded. I am closing this thread. If you don't like it--tough shit!! You can cry about it and I can even call you a WHHHAAAHHBulance. If one cares to post a new thread pertaining to the new direction--feel free.
Dioze1

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