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Offline3DSHROOM
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: ralphster44]
    #411248 - 10/02/01 12:52 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I wasn't really saying you had anything to do with it ralph.

All I can say is, this would have never happened if McMan wouldn't have made a threat (even if it was idle).

I for one am very glad Una pointed out the pictures to the community. If nobody looks for people misleading others or they don't make their findings public, then how will we ever know if anyone is misleading the community?

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: ralphster44]
    #411257 - 10/02/01 12:59 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I think that thread should never have been posted in the first place. It was obviously there for no reason other than to start shit, IMO. Threads like these really don't do anyone any good and look bad for the entire supposed "community" that we have here.
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Umm it was not put there to start shit, it was put there to let everyone in this 'community' know what may be going on without their knowledge. And they do everyone good who reads them and formulates a purchase decision based on the 'facts' layed out. And if you dont think this thread should have been posted in the first place, thats the same as saying you dont care if vendors ( do or do not, I dont know) threated other members of the board.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: darkfly]
    #411260 - 10/02/01 01:05 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: ralphster44]
    #411268 - 10/02/01 01:15 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

sorry ralph, that was directed to yoschie, not u

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: psilocyber]
    #411270 - 10/02/01 01:17 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Psilocyber, thanks for the info. I'm sure you guys do OK, but having run a mail order business for 7 years, all I can say is more power to you, I know how big your gross really has to be to make any money. I had years where my gross was over 1/2 million, and I was taking home about 30K by the time everybody got their cut of it. Let's just say that probably nobody is making enough for all this back-stabbing and bickering, regardless of who did what to whom. You and Anno are first-rate as far as I'm concerned, and while the Ralphster sometimes gets a little emotional and says things he later regrets, he DOES regret them later and does so publicly, and IMHO he's done a lot of good overall.

I don't know McMan, but it sure seems like things are always breaking and voices raised when he's around. He seems to know a lot about cultivation, but sure ruffles a lot of feathers at the same time. I guess I'm just saying we should all take a break from the topic for a week or two and see what settles out.

Is this all happening just because we don't have Hippie to kick around any more? What's the deal with that?


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: bobaloo]
    #411274 - 10/02/01 01:23 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Yoschie99]
    #411284 - 10/02/01 01:34 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Yoshie: You're actions are unexcusable... As they say, the proof's in the pudding, and you have tried to eliminate the proof!

The public DESERVES to know and see exactly what McMan threatened against Anno, because this IS INDEED a VERY serious matter. How would you like it if a vendor threatened to have YOUR ASS thrown in jail? I think you'd dislike it very much indeed.

It seems to me that you're just sucking McMan's slimey dick in this thread instead of doing your duty as a moderator and allowing the laymen to see the facts for themselves. You're job as a moderator is dispicable at best.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: bobaloo]
    #411289 - 10/02/01 01:40 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

To all involed:
As usual I have stayed out of this mess--I always do. Notice my name rarely appears in the negative here or elsewhere. I attribute this to not allowing myself to be suckered into getting trapped into these long drawn out saop operas--the he said, she said shit.
I am very surprised at some of the names I have been seeing in the threads about McMan and ralph--all the way from the pic issue, to this. The people that I respect for never getting involved in this sort of stuff have let themselves be suckered into this game. It is truly a shame.
I have found out that if you ignore this sort of stuff it saves you alot of hassle in the future--you don't accidentally say things that may come back to haunt you, your name never gets drug through the mud, you don't have to WASTE time defendeing yourself or your good name, and lastly by not contributing to such nonsense you do not contribute to the ONGOING of such threads.
I hate the fact that these threads take up so much time and space here--it is a shame.
If no one keeps these threads going they fizzle out--that's how all posts of this nature should be handled in my opinion. If I had my way I would close all threads like this--They are very UNproductive. The only problem would be that some ass hole would just start a new thread. This place needs a bitchin forum for this sort of stuff so it will quit cluttering up the other forums--espeially this one.
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: dioze1]
    #411295 - 10/02/01 01:50 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

You people must be fucking idiots. Yes bad.....all is bad here....A vendor threatened another vendor with police....that is fucking uncalled for.....and ralph i know you are a good guy buy why are you changing your words now????

This dose need to be stopped now!!!!!!!!!!

So mcman, step and to the mic......

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: camel]
    #411296 - 10/02/01 01:52 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Alls I know is Anno does no wrong as far as the community goes.

:frown: .. what was i saying..? Time for a cigarette.


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: camel]
    #411305 - 10/02/01 02:03 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Camel, sorry you feel that way. As a moderator... i am supposed to hold up the rules of this site no matter what. I'm not choosing sides here... unlike everyone else... I'm just doing my job.

that's all I have to say to you...

thank you and goodbye...


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Yoschie99]
    #411321 - 10/02/01 02:26 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

As a moderator... i am supposed to hold up the rules of this site no matter what.




Well here's a quote from the frontpage:

"Hello and welcome to the Shroomery! This site was created to help stop the spread of dangerous misinformation"

By deleting the evidence, you are the root and CAUSE of the misinformation in this instance. Are you sure you're doing your job as a moderator?

A concerned member of the underground...
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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: CACA]
    #411323 - 10/02/01 02:29 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

It seems many can't tell the difference between skilled/intelligent/respectable amateur Mycologists/Spore providers like Anno, Psilocyber, Workman, and Una and the average sporepimp. To me there is a major difference as far as credibility is concerned and the amount of respect one should be given.

Personally I have little respect for the average sporepimp and their credibility, the only thing most of them take serious is the money, I have nothing but respect for those I listed above. The others can be replaced by anyone, I have a better setup than the avg sporepimp(microscope, Flow hood, Eberbach, bacti-cinerator, etc.) and I'm not even cultivating at the moment.

Not sure what I'm trying to say, just that I've never met Anno, Sporeworks, or Una, but have the utmost respect for all 4 of the guys and am confident that they have very strong ethics.


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: camel]
    #411326 - 10/02/01 02:31 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

I am quite sure that I am.
There are a couple of rules that we go by for editing posts... the new supplier policy, personal info(names, adress,etc), and PM's. While this wasn't a shroomery PM... e-mails are definately private messages. If they were meant to be seen by all.. they would have been posted here by the person that sent them.

Do you really think it's necessary for the emails to be posted? I personally don't. People are either going to believe anno and crew, believe mcman and crew.. or just not give a shit in either direction...


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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: CACA]
    #411329 - 10/02/01 02:34 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm, after reading the entire thread....
I think I will NOT be doing business with McMan no matter
how knowledgable about growing he is. Geez, if anything this thread lets out the secrets of some peoples true colors, and
a man who knows whats going on and doesn't stop in to make ONE SINGLE post in his own defense, looks guilty as hell to me..... When I do place my first order for syringes/prints it certainly won't be thru McMan.... Take care all

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: NewbieShroomer]
    #411368 - 10/02/01 03:17 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

newbie- (i feel weird calling you that! ::laughing:: ) mcman's spore page and sales are seperate from his hydrapod page and is run by another totally different person- ralphster44. i dont think many people here (on the site, or in this thread for that matter) doubt r's credibility or product. read up on ralph when youre interested in spores :)



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: 3DSHROOM]
    #411381 - 10/02/01 03:22 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

You know what pisses me off, I posted in the suggestion forum about the Hydropod being false advertising. Then 3D came in with a defense, now what gives 3D? I was nice about it but now Im laughing as I see its all blowing up in your face. I knew all along when all the spamming started that McMan was just out to make a buck. And his pissie ass pictures are still fakes - as I said before.

I personally think you and Thor should just pipe out of it and let the community argue about this. Also, who is this Yosich99 editing all the posts with the emails? I am just being honest you guys, you are really going to loose people by switching the side of the fence you are on day by day.

Im sure Ryche is just rolling holding his belly. McMan never produced a picture of the Hydropod in action, he could of had a friend do so. He says he has kids, wife, and thats great - stay the fruck out of the buisness then!

Karma is having it way now and I applaude. Yes Im being a dick, I never get any, and I mean any replies from useful stuff I post anywhoo, who cares.

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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Ozone]
    #411394 - 10/02/01 03:30 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: oscill8]
    #411402 - 10/02/01 03:38 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

oscill!

LOL! I used the term newbie because I have worked in online porn for the last 6 years and thats what we call webmasters new to the world of porn, newbies!
LOL!! So I figured my first name when I was meeting everyone should reflect my status, for better or worse!!!

Hmmm, as far as doubting credibility, still, it bothers me when someone knows they are being flamed, and don't even make one post about it. I have been using message boards and have pissed with multimillionaires as well as the lowest ottom feeders. One thing I have learned is that people with credibility will often NOT give in and piss ( message board arguments ) all day into a board. but they usually post their side once, if they are in the right. People who let others defend them usually have something to hide, for a recent example, how about Gary Condit? I'll never vote democrat again.... LOL!
Anyway, maybe if you can, throw me some urls and I will check them them out, and continue to make my own decisions gathered from info I find posted to the boards! Thank you for your opinions though! And, with a little more time and some urls to look at, maybe I will change my mind :) And, as far as interest in spores, well, I am interested right now, get my new place on the 6th, and ready to buy this week. Thats why I read the entire thread in the first place, and thats why i am reading ALL of the threads I possibly can!
Nice ta meet you, will see you around I am sure!

Take care!

Mikey

newbie- (i feel weird calling you that! ::laughing:: ) mcman's spore page and sales are seperate from his hydrapod pageand is run by another totally different person- ralphster44. i dont think many people here (on the site, or in this thread forthat matter) doubt r's credibility or product. read up on ralph when youre interested in spores :)



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Re: I Demand The Truth About McMan [Re: Ozone]
    #411403 - 10/02/01 03:39 PM (22 years, 6 months ago)

>Also, who is this Yosich99 editing all the posts with the emails?
I also feel that why. Why not let the community decide based on the things that were originaly posted?
About posting emails and PMs: I?m the last one to make a "normal" email or or PM public, since Yoshee is right on this, it is a private thing.

BUT it looses all the private character if someone threatens you with the police or otherwise in it!! You can bet that I wll post any further mails with that content (though I really hope there won?t be any more....)

For everyone that is interested in the original, unedited thread, I put it on a server for everybody to read it here, since I don?t have to hide anything.

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