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Offlinescatmanrav
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My mushrooms are growing tiny and thin...how do I make them fatter?
    #4102697 - 04/27/05 02:54 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

See...




This was last night, I'll post some updated pictures in a few moments. Substrate is a bulk mix (h/poo mainly with some castings, coir, verm, rye grass seed, rye, and WBS).


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4102748 - 04/27/05 03:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Some better pictures, taken a few moments ago:







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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4102863 - 04/27/05 03:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

What strain?
Some strains make tiny pins.


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: MeatSpace]
    #4103204 - 04/27/05 05:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It is an austrailian strain.


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Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: MeatSpace]
    #4103215 - 04/27/05 05:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You know Scat. I'm going through a similar type of thing now with the OI strain. The casings are straw/poo/coir/coffee w/lime. The first flush had very thin mushrooms. But the next flushes are working out so much better. It might be one of them strains. or the mixture might be a little on the sweet side as far as PH is concerned. My first flush casings PH was 7.3 on most of them. Now the PH is right and everything is panning out much better.


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4103238 - 04/27/05 05:14 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

you have to let them grow up. mine grew stright up then right before the vile broke they got fat...i dont know why


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: Retired]
    #4103256 - 04/27/05 05:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Here's that casing I was talking about Scat. Now it's doing much better on the next flush. Pretty thin fruits for an OI casing if you ask me.

http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=3513


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: Hotnuts]
    #4103275 - 04/27/05 05:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

must be the strain


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4103430 - 04/27/05 05:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

What is your substrate depth?


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4103441 - 04/27/05 05:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

And are you sure these aren't Panaelous cyanescens?  Congrats in advance if that's what this mystery thread is about  :thumbup: :mushroom2:


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4103444 - 04/27/05 05:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Its about 1 3/4-2 inches, with about 1/4" (maybe a little less, very thin) casing layer (peat/verm).


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4103849 - 04/27/05 07:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

thicker casing layer = longer pinning times = bigger shrooms.


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4103925 - 04/27/05 08:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Scat, unless Diver is right......

I had a problem with one of my Double Tubs growing much smaller fruits than any of my other tubs...

Every variable was the same: same substrate, spawn ratio, air exchange, as the other tubs.

The only difference was that the depth of the substrate was.....let me check my notes...... aprox 2 inches deep with a half inch coir/verm casing.



The looked similar to yours while they were growing up.  I was worried about them the whole time and sure enough they came in very small, compared to other tubs with thicker sub.

Just a thought....Good luck bro. :smile:

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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: mushroommark]
    #4103945 - 04/27/05 08:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

My Australian are growing really skinny to. It could just be genetics man.


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: mushroommark]
    #4104524 - 04/27/05 10:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Scat, unless Diver is right......

I had a problem with one of my Double Tubs growing much smaller fruits than any of my other tubs...

Every variable was the same: same substrate, spawn ratio, air exchange, as the other tubs.

The only difference was that the depth of the substrate was.....let me check my notes...... aprox 2 inches deep with a half inch coir/verm casing.



The looked similar to yours while they were growing up.  I was worried about them the whole time and sure enough they came in very small, compared to other tubs with thicker sub.

Just a thought....Good luck bro. :smile:

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That's the same problem I had with a GT casing. My substrate
depth was about 1.25", and my tallest fruits were 4"...Lesson learned for me.


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Re: My mushrooms are growing tiny and thin...how do I make them fatter? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4104905 - 04/27/05 11:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i always thought that substraight depths should be around 4-6" deep


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Re: My mushrooms are growing tiny and thin...how do I make them fatter? [Re: onetime]
    #4104919 - 04/27/05 11:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

My substrate depths are usually 1.5-3 inches thick...sometimes thicker, sometimes thinner...usually right around 2 inches though.


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
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Re: My mushrooms are growing tiny and thin...how do I make them fatter? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4104976 - 04/27/05 11:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

lately, i've been wondering if you lose anything in actual weight when you dillute depth over area :strokebeard:


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Re: My mushrooms are growing tiny and thin...how do I make them fatter? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4108588 - 04/28/05 10:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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My substrate depths are usually 1.5-3 inches thick...sometimes thicker, sometimes thinner...usually right around 2 inches though.




even for bulk substraights or are you talking about just caseings depths


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Re: My mushrooms are very small to start...how do I make them fatter? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4108599 - 04/28/05 10:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Very nice :thumbup: Enjoy the harvest and great work.


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