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Offlinealphaone
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Horror trip on hash
    #4102028 - 04/27/05 10:43 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I've been enjoying the effects of plain weed for years. Especially after I started to trip on mushrooms, the weed has become so much more psychedelic.

Yesterday a local dealer of mine told me there was no good weed available anywhere. Luckily, however, he had got the finest hash he's seen in years, and lots of it for a small price. At least he told me so.

I hesitated at first, and said give me grass or nothing, but he insisted.

So to cut the long story short, I got the hash. When I arrived home I smoked two little crumbs with some tobacco in two joints.

The effect was pretty fast, and more akin to an anaesthetic than weed. I felt sick, my throat was kinda tightened, and I felt nauseous. My appetite was suppressed, not increased. The effects increased after 15 minutes and got a lot more intense.

After about 30 minutes or so, I think I started to feel first effects that were reminiscent of cannabis, but although intense they lacked almost 90% of the spectrum of the weed experience. It was definitely not fun. Music was just spaced out, I couldn't concentrate on it, I couldn't enjoy it. I couldn't think in the way I can think when I'm on weed. Only after about 2 hours or so did I feel my appetite return and was in a way similar to weed munchies, but again nothing special. In fact, on ballance, the whole experience was characterized by an intense feeling of artificiality and there was more paranoia than relaxed state of mind. It sucked big time.

Another friend of mine told me that the hash might have been mixed with some heroin, but I'm not sure (never had any experience with dope). The color of this hash is very bright brown (similar to the color of tobacco) and it smells like weed. There are some little spots /specks of even lighter brown color in its texture. It's not completely dry. When crumbled it's somewhat sticky but it can be crumbled into quite tiny pieces.

So, what do you think this was? Did I get some shitty hash? Or am I just reacting badly to this form of THC? It sure didn't get me to the high to where I wanted to go  :mad:


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: alphaone]
    #4102046 - 04/27/05 10:47 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Moroccan/Afghan/Lebanese, etc imports will often have a very narcotic stone due to degradation & transport. I bet you got some Moroccan...its pleasant stuff imo, always gets you to the same level of "stoned". If its high quality, the first few smokes will probably get your heart racing nicely :smile:, but its all good...just hash.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: alphaone]
    #4102055 - 04/27/05 10:52 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Try smoking less. Brown though it just sounds like you got hash from a overally matur pot plan. Hash is made from the trichomes or "thc glands". The trichomes change colors through out flowering period It goes from clear -> cloudy -> amber -> brown. I can't tell if it has herion in it or not. Maybe opium probably not though, I thinking it is just hash that kicked yoru ass.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: Stonerguy]
    #4102060 - 04/27/05 10:55 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

clear trichs turn brown when pressed & stored.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: Stonerguy]
    #4102090 - 04/27/05 11:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i've only seen dark hash... i have seen bright-brown opium though...


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: pleco]
    #4102110 - 04/27/05 11:13 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Pressed hash ranges from a honey-cream color(water hash), brown (dry sift-Moroccan, etc)--to straight black(hand rubbed) depending on extraction method.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: Organic]
    #4102237 - 04/27/05 12:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

So it's not uncommon to experience intense narcotic effects from hash (minus psychedelic & relaxing effects of weed)? I didn't know that. I thought hash was just more concentrated & purified marijuana, but basically that all other cannabinoids were also present in it. I guess that's not the case.

I'm not sure if I want to re-experience yesterday's experience.

Thanks everyone for the input.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: alphaone]
    #4102257 - 04/27/05 12:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

The more psychoactive cannabanoids degrade into the more 'body heavy' ones as hash inevitably degrades. Making your own kiff and not pressing it is more like purified marijuana.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: Organic]
    #4102378 - 04/27/05 01:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

mmmmmmmmmmm........ hash!!!! :smile:


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: alphaone]
    #4102446 - 04/27/05 01:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Never trust hash unless you make it yourself.  Some hash has wierd stuff in it, like when the Turks cut it with goat blood.  You don't want to be smoking goat's blood.

Also, if you are going to smoke it with tobacco at least do it right and use a hot coal hookah.  I prefer to smoke it by itself in a pipe fitted with a metal screen.

I agree with organic, it's way easier to just kief your own bud.  Invest in a small kiefbox, I think they go for around $40 if you're lucky.  Even if it's shwag you can always buy an ounce, kief the mother up, then resell it to someone who doesn't mind smoking shwag.  Kind of a dirty trick to pull though :wink:


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: SWEDEN]
    #4102790 - 04/27/05 03:14 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

could be just hash, could be hash with some opium. Especially the darker hashish, that is kinda soft and from afghanistan (or somewhere around there) occasionally has opium in it.
Perhaps your hash was mixed with some opium too.
Was the smoke smoother than usual (opium smoke is smoother than hash smoke)? I believe the effects of Opium wear off faster than of hash. Did you still feel the effects you'd normally feel off weed/hash after those two hours or were you almost sober?

This is what I've heard from other people tho'..


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: Ikke]
    #4103496 - 04/27/05 06:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

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Was the smoke smoother than usual (opium smoke is smoother than hash smoke)? I believe the effects of Opium wear off faster than of hash. Did you still feel the effects you'd normally feel off weed/hash after those two hours or were you almost sober?




Don't know how ordinary hash smoke feels like, but this is pretty smooth. However, I doubt they'd add opium, unless it's cheaper than hash? I did feel effects of normal weed after about half an hour. That was yesterday.

Today I tried again. I inhaled it via a hand-made device, so is it wasn't mixed with tobacco smoke.

This time it was a lot more like normal weed high, but somehow more crude, more dreamy, whereas on weed I have the urge to create mental images etc.

I also think it wears off more quickly than the weed high, so I'd say it's not such a good value for money as plain weed.

I could be wrong, who knows.. maybe I'm not taking it the right way.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: alphaone]
    #4104533 - 04/27/05 10:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

sounds like you just got "green sick" but from some hash... never tried hash myself, but i have smoked copious amounts of weed in a very short amount of time, and it really didn't even feel like being high. I was just extremely clear headed, yet couldn't really think of anything important or worthwhile...then i fell asleep.

Don't know if that helped at all, i'd say just smoke a bit less next time.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: alphaone]
    #4104578 - 04/27/05 10:27 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Here's some nice Moroccan hash. Hard and brown, you eat it to crumble it and it lets off its beautiful smell and taste that will follow you for the rest of your life. Blaze small amounts for a lovely clear headed high that lets you do whatever you want with no burn out, just a smooth day. Blaze a much fatter bowl to get china eyed and faded as fuck  :rasta:

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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: P2K1]
    #4105380 - 04/28/05 01:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Try less next time. I would find it unlikely for it to be mixed with an opiate, cause that would make it more expensive to make. I personally wouldn't smoke tobacco with it.

Once me and three buddies smoked 8 grams of hash in a depth charge, and man, we were FUCKED. Too bad it was cold out, as the cold is sobering.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: MeThoD]
    #4106743 - 04/28/05 01:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

"cold is sobering"
Any evidence for this?
Cold always makes me higher.
Different strokes for different folks.

Plus if you just smoked eight grams of hash, it doesn't matter how cold it is, or if you eat you are gonna be fucking high!


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: mecreateme]
    #4109151 - 04/29/05 12:45 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mecreateme said:
"cold is sobering"
Any evidence for this?
Cold always makes me higher.
Different strokes for different folks.

Plus if you just smoked eight grams of hash, it doesn't matter how cold it is, or if you eat you are gonna be fucking high!




How could we talking about? I swear to god that after 15 minutes outside I could not tell at all I had smoked anything at all. When that happened it was windy as hell and -25C (-13F).


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: alphaone]
    #4109462 - 04/29/05 02:35 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

how did you feel afterwards?

If the guy who sold it to you asks if you liked it, see what he does
when you say "yes."

I've never smoked opium, but from what I've read, the effects sound about right.

If you have money to throw away, look up drug testing labs in the
yellow pages and have someone listed there analyse your piss.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: BloodNOil]
    #4109500 - 04/29/05 02:50 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Sometimes too much THC is just too much. I have had some VERY unpleasant experiences as a result of being inexperienced or irresponsible.


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Re: Horror trip on hash [Re: BloodNOil]
    #4109833 - 04/29/05 05:06 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I tried it 2 more times and liked it much better. I took it in several smaller doses (burned with a lighter on an aluminium foil). The effects characteristic of THC now began immediately. I don't think there's opium in in. The smoke gets pretty harsh after some time. I don't think the guy I took this from would sell me bad stuff on purpose.


In my opinion hash should never be mixed with tobacco, cause the two don't like each other. When smoked alone, it produces about the same effects like weed, but it hits you a bit differently (timing) and a bit harder. It's a good high actually, but I am still not used to it. After taking 3 hits, I enjoyed the weed-like high for about 3 hours, then I felt burned out and fell into sleep (which was pleasant though). 

Perhaps I'll manage to obtain some ordinary weed today, and will mix it with hash. Results should be interesting :smile:


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