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InvisibleGoldenShroom
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Simmer first, then soak
    #4096896 - 04/25/05 07:54 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Does it make sense?

My view is that it may ulitmately get rid of more endospores since the soak happens after the grain becomes fully hydrated (the water has penetrated all the way thru the grain).  But will it lead to a goopy and sticky grain?

I'm just trying to see if it makes any sense to try it this way.  Maybe someone has done it before and can enlighten me on the results!  :stoned:


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Re: Simmer first, then soak [Re: GoldenShroom]
    #4096911 - 04/25/05 07:57 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

No it doesn't make sense, unless you're going to simmer, soak then resimmer.

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Re: Simmer first, then soak [Re: GoldenShroom]
    #4096928 - 04/25/05 08:02 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Simmering, or soaking, doesn't have to be a combo. I've simmer WBS for 45 minutes (from the bag) and used it. Worked fine. For neophytes, I'd say soak for 6 hours in warm/lukewarm water, simmer for about 15 minutes, drain, rinse, etc.


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Re: Simmer first, then soak [Re: ImOver18]
    #4096932 - 04/25/05 08:04 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

What would be the purpose of resimmering?


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Re: Simmer first, then soak [Re: GoldenShroom]
    #4096986 - 04/25/05 08:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Final answer.

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Re: Simmer first, then soak [Re: Wronguy]
    #4097034 - 04/25/05 08:32 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Read that b4. I guess your answer would be that it doesn't matter, but I believe there is a best way.


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Re: Simmer first, then soak [Re: GoldenShroom]
    #4097057 - 04/25/05 08:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Leave it to Agar on this one. He really does know what he's talking about. His method has always worked for me and I'm 40 jars in with WBS.

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Re: Simmer first, then soak [Re: Wronguy]
    #4097096 - 04/25/05 08:43 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ok, thanks


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Re: Simmer first, then soak [Re: GoldenShroom]
    #4097288 - 04/25/05 09:22 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

If you simmer it first, you have to guess the amount of water that will be absorbed while soaking it, becasue it will absorb water while soaking. If you drain the water off, the seeds may germinate..thats what happened when I tried that once anyway. Soak then simmer, or just soak, or just simmer, or just add seed and water, all work. Just find what works for you.


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