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new grower questions
    #4092073 - 04/24/05 05:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

hi all, let me start off with some background info for this post...

i have never grow mushrooms before, i plan on using a couple grain based bags from mycofactory... my questions are as follows:

What strain should i use/ is the best for indoor mycobag cultivation?
how many times can i re-use each bag?/ what is the best method for dunking?
my grow area will be in a closet, i should wipe down all the surfaces around it with rubbing alcohol?
when giving the fungus light, will a tap light work? also the site says i should use a 12/12 lighting schedule. is there no room for error there or can i give/take away a couple hours here and there?

i believe thats it for now,, if i can think of anything else i will post.


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Re: new grower questions [Re: meheh]
    #4092390 - 04/24/05 07:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

#1 - There is rarely any real difference between strains. All I can say here is go with Z-strain... it seems to generally be one of the fastest.

#2 - I don't know, no experience with mycobags.

#3 - Probably not necessary, but always a good idea. You'll lose less to contams in general.

#4 - Any light will work, but ones stronger in the blue spectrum (such as fluorescent grow lights for starting seedlings) work best. Specifics of the light cycle are not important. I turn my light off before I pass out at night (usually around 4 hours before sunrise), then sunlight filters into the closet... I turn the light back on when I wake up... so it's around 16-22 hours of light daily.


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Re: new grower questions [Re: cubicidal]
    #4092477 - 04/24/05 07:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hey! Welcome to the shroom world. Honestly, for a first timer, I suggest that you try the PF-Tek, the "grow bags" are shit. A lot of people try them and about 80% of them get comtams, no growth and other stuff, + you don't get that much shroomies from them. As for a strain I'd suggest PESA. It's a good beginner strain!


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Re: new grower questions [Re: cubicidal]
    #4092483 - 04/24/05 07:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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cubicidal said:
#1 - There is rarely any real difference between strains. All I can say here is go with Z-strain... it seems to generally be one of the fastest.





Yes there is quite a big difference...


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Re: new grower questions [Re: Cray]
    #4092498 - 04/24/05 07:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

My first strain was GT, and I've loved it. Most people recommend B+ for beginners, however. Big fruits, and a forgiving strain. I honestly believe that there are subtle differences between strains, but nothing too big to prevent you from growing one over the other.


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Re: new grower questions [Re: Crasher]
    #4092518 - 04/24/05 08:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yea, for first grow I'd recommend: PESA, B+, Golden Teacher, or EQ. PESA is good I think, colonizes FAST! I injected PESA spores friday for a couple PF jars, and this morning I had about a dime size of myc. showing, I justed looked at it it's about a quarter size now. And I'm growing B+ too, and the PESA is going the fastest.


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Re: new grower questions [Re: Cray]
    #4092585 - 04/24/05 08:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

well i was thinking about the invitro tek but i was told not to do it because of small yield/contams... however i will look into the PF tek a little more,, thanks for the replies.


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Re: new grower questions [Re: meheh]
    #4092685 - 04/24/05 08:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i agree that PF is a good way to begin. if you want to dive into bulk right away, that is ok too, there are just more variables and a few more ways to screw something up. not impossible, though, by any means!


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Re: new grower questions [Re: gratefulredhead]
    #4092869 - 04/24/05 09:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yea man read the PF tek that is the best one for beginners.
For your strain just have fun with that, it's your first grow man, just go with the strain that you think sounds the coolest. All the strains that you grow are going to be grown under the same conditions, and will grow if you know what your doing, so just have fun.


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Re: new grower questions [Re: gratefulredhead]
    #4092870 - 04/24/05 09:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

do both if you can afford it, mycobags are awesome if they actualy make it through the colonization fase. i bought 7 once for the hell of it, 3 where contams, so i emailed the place i got it from and they gladly replaced them out of those 3, 2 more contamed and one busted open when i was trying to mix it up inside, but the few that did make it i cased and they gave me 3-4 good flushes. GL with whichever you do, let us know how it turns out.


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Re: new grower questions [Re: meheh]
    #4093088 - 04/24/05 10:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ok, so as of today i am probably going to do invitro with some pre-made plastic jars from http://www.mycrotopia.com/catalog/catalog.php (under Pre-Sterilized Substrate) its something like 24 jars for 70$ altogether. the only thing is the price.... sooo i might just end up making my own if i dont want to end up spending 70bones. once again thanks for the replies!


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Re: new grower questions [Re: meheh]
    #4093123 - 04/24/05 10:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

MAKE IT YOURSELF!
Rough estimate of costs to prepare your own jars:
1/2 pint ball jars at wally mart: 7 bucks
bag of verm: 3 bucks
Brown rice flower: 5 bucks
Tyvek filters: FREE
PC: (if you intend to move up to whole grain) 15-50 bucks
water: yeah...


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