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Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?!
    #4091542 - 04/24/05 12:42 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Last night me and 3 of my friends ate 5 grams of my home grown mushrooms. It was a really mystical adventure until I started having some kind of seizure. I thought I was going to die it just slowly crept up on me. I blacked out and fell to the ground and landed on my head really hard. It felt like I was dead one of the worst feelings you could ever have. I could here my friends yelling my name trying to snap me out but in my mind I everything was rumbling like a helicopter.I had no judgment I could only here my friend voices then all of a sudden I snapped out of it. I had another one like 2 minutes later and I thought I was going to die. My friends said my face turned really green as if I was dead and were about to call the hospital. I was so scared I was going to die and Im afraid Ive done some kind of damage to my brain. I was wondering if anyone had any kind of experience like this? I dont know if I should take mushrooms again and if that could some how risk my life. I remember when it started to happen it was like hearing a helicopter coming from the distance aproaching in my mind louder and louder. I dont know what to do and some help I could use. :frown:


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4091649 - 04/24/05 01:24 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

this actualy happened to a friend of mine.... he doesnt take psychedelics anymore because of it (he used to take a whole lot then one day he siezed... then the trip after that the same thing happened).

looks like the short version of this story is you might have to give up psychedelics...

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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4091830 - 04/24/05 02:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Black outs are fairly common on shrooms... I think it has something to do with blood sugar levels.

As for the seizure, I'd say that part was probably from landing on your head really hard.

I'm not an expert by any means, but I don't think the shrooms caused the seizure, so you could probably do them again... but certainly not until YOU feel like you should do it again. That sort of thing.

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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #4091976 - 04/24/05 03:14 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I have low blood pressure maybe that caused it?


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4092102 - 04/24/05 03:48 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

This kind of happened to me once...

We just finished smoking a large blunt, and we were all on 3g's of good shrooms. My friend said that he didn't feel very good and the look on his face was really negative. I got a really bad vibe all of the sudden, I started to get REALLY hot and my vision began to blur. I stood up and started to take off my shirt because I was burning up, then all of the sudden I felt really cold and started to dry heave. At one point, all I remember seeing is white, nothing else. I snapped out of it, but I think that I almost blacked out. Probably had a lot to due with the pot.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4092343 - 04/24/05 05:11 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I have low blood pressure maybe that caused it?




The symptoms you described (that thud-thud-thud-thud noise especially!) are pretty common when blacking out due to low blood pressure and/or low blood sugar.

I've passed out a few times NOT on anything due to low blood pressure, and I get that EXACT same noise when it happens.

The other thing is, I don't think you would be conscious enough during a seizure to think about anything. I know there are some minor types of seizures where you don't lose consciousness, but those are all conditions on their own not cause by mushrooms.

I had a good friend in university who had epilepsy, and he said that he could never remember anything from a few minutes BEFOER the seizure starts until a good 5-10 minutes after it was over. It was fucking scary shit seeing it happen the first time, before he had told any of us he had epilepsy :confused:

Though I'm no expert on seizures, so you may want to ask a doc.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4092426 - 04/24/05 05:37 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Had you done any other substances apart from shrooms when you had this experience???

I've witnessed people black out and fall to the floor from weed alone.

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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #4092453 - 04/24/05 05:42 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

nope just shrooms. It happend at about the 4th hour when I was coming down. It was totally unexpected. I feel really depressed today.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4092946 - 04/24/05 08:06 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I have low blood pressure maybe that caused it?




That would be my guess....


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4093247 - 04/24/05 09:23 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like you had some low blood pressure and you bout fainted. Being on shrooms made it feel very intense. I have low blood pressure in general and i know exactly what helicopter sound your talking about. Sometimes if im smoked up real good and stand up to fast i get real lightheaded.

Ive also seen 2 of my friends about pass out from low bloodpressure as well.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4093960 - 04/25/05 12:37 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I've also had a friend pass out after drinking, taking some sort of upper, and smoking a lot. He had been sitting down for a long time, and as soon as I he stood up he told me he was feeling a little lightheaded. We walked up to the kitchen and he suddenly dropped right to the floor. He woke up about a minute later.

I don't think any of us here are experts, and maybe you should consult your doctor in case there is an underlying medical issue here.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #4104120 - 04/27/05 07:01 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

So what could I do to prevent these "black outs" on my next trip? How could I increase my blood pressure? Pizza?


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4104182 - 04/27/05 07:12 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Get really fuckin pissed :wink:


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4104283 - 04/27/05 07:28 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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p4kSouL said:
So what could I do to prevent these "black outs" on my next trip? How could I increase my blood pressure? Pizza?




Keep some candy or fruit with you... if you feel lightheaded, eat some candy or fruit. This will raise your blood sugar level and you will start to feel better.

P.S. Don't use hard candies...  :grin:


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4104684 - 04/27/05 08:49 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

i get seizures. that doesn't sound like a seizure thing at all. if you have a grand mal you tend to lose consciousness.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: Tasty_Smurf_House]
    #4104902 - 04/27/05 09:30 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

grand mal?


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4109289 - 04/28/05 11:17 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

do shrooms lower your blood pressure? I read that they actually increase your blood pressure is that true? So it couldnt be a blood pressure issue. Maybe I did really have a seizure?


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4109512 - 04/29/05 12:54 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

what you decribed with the helicopter noises i have had the same thing no mushies involved tho happend when i hit my vaporizer with some chronic bublonic plague every thing went hazey and i could still hear everyone around me i just blacked out and hit the ground like a limp noodle... i just figured i didnt breath enough air

i had a buddy who had seizures and he would just straight out start shakein and his body would just stretch out like he was reachin the sky and fall scary shit if you dont know whats goin on..


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: scarymidgets]
    #4109545 - 04/29/05 01:17 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Well Ive been searching around for information on seizures. I read Seizures are caused by "Anything that disturbs the normal pattern of neuron activity". Obviously psilocybin reaches in that area so I guess im not to surprised if it really was a seizure. Also I read there are a ton of different kinds of seizures. You dont have to necessarily be shaking physically to have a seizure. I think people need to realize that seizures can also be a risk when taking psychedelics.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4115975 - 04/30/05 07:00 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Grand mal, petite mal. the bigger and larger seizures. grand mal being the full out convulsions on the floor and shit. To my knowledge, a seizure is when there is some kind of electronic problem within the brain and instead of some things, neurons or synapses, something stays on instead of turning off and the electronic signals bounce back and forth between the brain untill resolved.


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    #4116127 - 04/30/05 07:33 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: poke smot!]
    #4132352 - 05/04/05 11:50 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

So do shrooms increase or lower your blood pressure? I cant seem to find information on this anywhere. :confused:


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4139145 - 05/05/05 06:38 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Well...... I have honestly read that seizures can be caused by drugs such as shrooms as well as various others due to the over acting of the neurons.

You don't have to have epilepsy to have seizures as they can start at any age and come out of left field like mine did when I was around 13 and slipped in some mud and was walking around blacked out and subconcious...... this was the start of Epilepsy and could have been caused by head trauma I endured earlier in life.

Epilepsy can be caused by something or even nothing at all so please see a doctor and/or neurologist since you shouldn't be taking hardcore drugs until you know if you have actually had a seizure as the next drug you take aside from pot could possibly be lethal to your health.

I don't mean to sound so bleak but I don't want any harm to come unto you so just be aware of the consequences and speak with someone who could diagnos you with what you actually have.

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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4152260 - 05/09/05 01:01 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Happened to me too on 2 grams... Had a seizure in a former friend's garage, it appears that my legs were shaking violently and I sent candles and bottles flying everywhere...


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4172012 - 05/13/05 05:46 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Happened to a friend of mine on 3.5g.. as soon as he exhaled the bong hit *thud* on the ground spazzing out.. So it seems weed does have something to do with it.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: TiCal]
    #4174011 - 05/14/05 09:22 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I guess I'll add this too. It didn't happen to one my friends the first few times he used mushrooms. He did them one day and ever since then he has this problem everytime he uses them. He's actually more of an acquaintance. I also know of 2 other people that this happens to.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: Psilovibe]
    #4175754 - 05/14/05 06:17 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I really can't tell you a lot about seizures and psychedelics besides a few anectodes. But I think that what is more important is the potential here for you to develope Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

PTSD is very common for people who have had bad experiances on pychedelics. My brother developed it after having a seizure on acid. He would see the floaters in his eyes and get HPPD symptoms and the fear and anxiety would grip him. He'd feel like he was having his bad trip all over again. It took him a long time to come to terms with what happened to him.

Whatever you decide, whether you never trip again or keep tripping you have to confront and cope with the trauma. You have to relive the experiance over and over again until you don't feel any anxiety. This could mean tripping again with theraputic intentions, talking about it to a friend or parent, or seeing a psychologist (not a psychiatrist, they just give you pills). If you don't feel traumatized by it then don't worry, but it sounds like you are still freaked out about it.

This is what I recommend. Talk it out. Think about it. Relive it in your head until you are completely comfortable with those feelings. Once you accept it as just something that happened to you you can move on. You definitely should see a doctor and get tested for epilepsy. This could be a physical thing too. When you are comfortable enough, take a small dose of shrooms. You will see that tripping is just tripping, and that your brain is fine and you have nothing to worry about.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4175815 - 05/14/05 06:45 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I used to hang out in a huge crowd of heavy drug users. I have never heard of a single person having a seizure from weed or any other psychedelic. However, I do know someone who took one pill of ecstasy and had a seizure and was taken to the hospital. E is a much more serious drug than mushrooms though, especially when you don't know exactly what is in it.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4182863 - 05/16/05 03:45 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

not necissarily hon...... mushrooms have pslycibin (sp?) and that is what usually causes the seizures...... I smoke alotta weed and know for a fact that it hasn't caused me a seizure ever..... may not be the case for everyone but I guarantee your friend probably had a seizure from the shrooms more so than the weed


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4182906 - 05/16/05 03:55 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Aside from not knowing what's in E, ectasy would definitelyi not be good for an epileptic as it over stimulates the neurons which would cause a seizure in the first place to my knowledge so why would any epileptic want to willingly try to endanger their health?


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4182949 - 05/16/05 04:06 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

it sounds like an anxiety attack to me but i doubt if anyone here is qualified to give you a diagnosis.

if it happens again i would seriously reccomend seeing your doctor.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4186021 - 05/17/05 10:33 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I don't know if it was a seizure (and it sounds like you're not sure either)

but once me and a couple friends were tripping on mushrooms out on a nature trail and I experienced a large blackout for the first time.

before it came on, one friend began panicking about being lost out in the woods, and began ranting that we had to get back to our campsite. that behavior, in turn, freaked me out, and I remember feeling as if everything was spiralling out of control and then I blacked out - as in I lost consciousness but I was still walking around and such...

I remember coming to for a moment and seeing my panicky friend scratching at his skin in what looked like agony. then I blacked out again, came to, and I was following my other friend down a trail and he was really pissed off about what was happening... blacked out AGAIN, and then I remember a vision that I'm not sure actually happened or not, but I was chasing a snake across a river banking.

when I finally snapped back to consciousness I was back at our campsite.

i tripped a couple more times after that and didn't experience it again.

i think it might have had something to do with the drugs in combination with a sudden onset of heavy anxiety... but I really have no idea.

I would try and consult a professional or research it more on your own.


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: toytle]
    #4208496 - 05/22/05 10:50 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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not necissarily hon...... mushrooms have pslycibin (sp?) and that is what usually causes the seizures...... I smoke alotta weed and know for a fact that it hasn't caused me a seizure ever..... may not be the case for everyone but I guarantee your friend probably had a seizure from the shrooms more so than the weed




This happened to me the other night. I am still pretty freaked out.

I have experianced mushrooms a handfull of times this year - it had been a month since my last trip. I was comming down from a good grillin' session with my brother. We "finished" tripping and went seperate ways. I had just finished eating a large meal and jumped up from the couch and went into the kitchen.

I started to get a little light headed, from standing up, tried to walk it off - then I went down.

Everything was white and I couldn't move, I was on my back on the ground, flailing like a fish trying to snap myself outa whatever was happening. I was yelling and screaming "WTF" - then I started to get my vision back but the intense sound of "wah wah wah wah wah" was making me crazy. I didn't know what was going on. My body felt like it was on fire, I was bleeding profusly out the back of my head (I belive I hit it going down) and I fractured my foot while "kicking" around on the ground. I had my hands in fists and my g/f says they were pulled up into my chest.

My lady snapped me out of it and came into the kitchen (she was sound asleep at the time too) I felt like I want to throw up sooooo bad, my body was sweating more than it ever has before. Then a nasty body chill crept over me. I was going back from extreem hot to teeth chattering shivers.

With some super glue my 4 inch head wound was glued shut, and I had to take 60min naps all night due to possible conconsion.

I hadn't taken any other drugs save for some cannabis earlier on in the night - and I ate the whole time. I have felt pretty weird mentally the last few days. Trying to figure out what I did wrong - or if I am prone to this now. I look at my tubs of mushies and get that feeling of near death that I had. Being out of control scared me more than anything. I would never wish that on anyone...


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Re: Help! I had a Seizure While Tripping?! [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4209093 - 05/23/05 03:22 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

p4kSouL said:
So what could I do to prevent these "black outs" on my next trip? How could I increase my blood pressure? Pizza?




Keep some candy or fruit with you... if you feel lightheaded, eat some candy or fruit. This will raise your blood sugar level and you will start to feel better.

P.S. Don't use hard candies...  :grin:




I recommend this kind:



Very nice to consume while shrooming, they are very soft and fun to eat.
Not overwhelming in taste and good for low bloodpressure.



This is VERY good for low bloodpressure, I have low bloodpressure as well.


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