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TiT?
    #4088886 - 04/23/05 05:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, spent a good while on the search engine, still couldnt find a 3 year olds explanation (instructions that take no aspect for common sense or granted). Reading the posts got me even more confused i think. Afoaf has 10 fully colonized 1/2 pint jars now (21 days), ready to be birthed into a what he thinks should be a TiT. He has 3 nice sized clear tubs, which are the same size, does he need one bigger tub to do TiT? What is the arrangement of and places of the holes in the inner tub? Do you need perlite, or will a bed of vermiculite do (my foaf has a huge bag of verm left over)? I understand the amount of water, bleach, heater concept, but should there be any need for misting or letting water flow into the inner tub a little? The tubs my foaf has fit into each other perfectly, with about 2 inches of space on the bottom and pretty much seals at the top when stacked.

Any help would asap would be great since these puppies need to birth soon, and if there is a link to a 3 yr old type explanation on TiT, just post that please, because I couldnt find it.


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Re: TiT? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4088900 - 04/23/05 05:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

it doesnt matter whether u use verm or perlite but put it in the inner tub. i personally use perlite in the inner tub. two of the same size tubs are typically wut are used.i jus now bilt my own tub in tub incubator and im expecting great results ive heard it was the best way to incubate


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Re: TiT? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4088931 - 04/23/05 05:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, when i searched, i mostly found your questions, but none specified on the things i needed to know. I still need to know what size, how many, and where to put the holes, also how many inches in the inner tub should the verm or perl be poured to make a proper bed?


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Re: TiT? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4088948 - 04/23/05 05:50 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Tub in Tub is usually used for incubation (while your jars are colonizing). If your room temp stays 70-75 you shouldn't need any other source of heat. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think 70-75 is ideal for fruiting.


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Re: TiT? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4088949 - 04/23/05 05:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

for the perlite id say a half inch to an inch would be good and then add water so that it is wet but not swimming.

size doesnt matter as long as it will fit everything that will be incubated then ure all set.

as far as i kno u dont need holes u jus put the submersible heater in the water put the tub on top of it and it will work fine


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Re: TiT? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4089019 - 04/23/05 06:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i thought TiT was a fruiting chamber? see, cant take common sense for granted, it isnt all that common anyway.


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Re: TiT? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4089098 - 04/23/05 06:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

klol tit is an incubator sry for the misinterpretation


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Re: TiT? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4089169 - 04/23/05 07:06 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

well, crap....maybe im thinkin too hard about this then.... my foaf's jars are already starting to get the veins, and pins (?) the little white knots...


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Re: TiT? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4089197 - 04/23/05 07:12 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

that's a tit:

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Re: TiT? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4089214 - 04/23/05 07:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

ok, i think i know where my confusion is stemming from... The first time my foaf grew, he did a grow kit, which was a casing set up, and the myc was grown in a bag of rye, then cased into the tub. It was supposed to fruit in this bin, and it did well. So with PF tek jars, could I just birth them onto a bed of verm in the same style bin? or should i keep on going with the construction of the TiT and still use that as a fruiting chamber?

Someone please set me straight. and thanks to everyones input so far...


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Re: TiT? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4089241 - 04/23/05 07:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

dont us a tit as a fruiting chamber just use a regular tub at room temp with a bed of verm birth the cakes directly on to the bed of verm or if u like it them on top of the lids or a wire rack for elevation. no submersible heater is needed nor any other type of heat jus room temperature in a tub with a bed of verm then sprinkle verm on top of the cakes so that verm is covering both ends of the cake. this is called double end casing


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Re: TiT? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4089480 - 04/23/05 08:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

thanks for that tip, but this foaf is just practicing with PF tek, didnt really want to get into casing yet, but the tip you gave is pretty much just so that there is vermiculite on the top and bottom of the cake? with the sides open and uncovered?


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Re: TiT? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4089485 - 04/23/05 08:51 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

yes thats correct with the sides open and uncovered


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Re: TiT? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4089503 - 04/23/05 08:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I was also wondering when the best time to birth them was.... i have seen some sources say right when you see primordia, and then some say once you see the red dots...anyone have a definitive answer? These are aslo B+ strains, so if anyone has a lot of exp. with this strain and its quirks, a tip or two would be much appreciated.


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Re: TiT? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4089522 - 04/23/05 08:59 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

you don't want them to pin inside the jars. you want to take the cakes out when it is fully colonized. dont expose to much light while it is colonizing or else it might pin in the jar which you dont want. expose double end cased cake to light when fully colonized inside the fruiting chamber. double end casing will increase yields better than just as cakes alone so its well worth attempting its pretty hard to screw it up look here for the tek


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Re: TiT? [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4089608 - 04/23/05 09:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

K, that rocks, my foaf is already done with the hard part I guess, the jars have some of the most thick and beautiful myc ever, beginners luck. Thanks for all your help! ill post pictures if possible


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Re: TiT? [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #4090904 - 04/24/05 08:12 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Try this. I hear it works ok.



Put two airstones in a rubbermade size of your choosing.    hook up your hoses and put in the geo-lite or hydroton ( lava rock will work, it is much cheeper but weighs a ton). I ran them threw the side.  I added the geolite 4 inches deep and water till it was an inch from the top    . Plug in hoses    ad cakes and go.  
  I hope this helps someone.  :grin:


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Re: TiT? [Re: Magash]
    #4090963 - 04/24/05 09:37 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

listen to lord he is giving good advice. when i started b+ i didn't use a casing of any kind, not even double ended. my results were pretty bad. but then using dunk and rolled cakes they worked out great.


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