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mattymonkey
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Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum
#4074697 - 04/19/05 09:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Does anyone do this? What kind of drum do you use? Stainless Steel drums cost tons! Def don't have money for that.. Can you use just food grade steel?
I found this on ebay.. its only going for $1 and I can pick it up.. think it'll work? Vac-U-Max Drum The mfg's website says its steel with a teflon coating.. maybe just the outside coated. Teflon is OK as long as its not scratched, right?
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DERRAYLD
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: mattymonkey]
#4075757 - 04/20/05 03:31 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Go for galvanised drums.
Works perfectly.
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YidakiMan
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: DERRAYLD]
#4076154 - 04/20/05 08:19 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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You could even use platic if you heat your water, dump it in the drum and insulate the drum. Just don't apply flame to the plastic.
If you soak the straw first, its a lot easier to submerge, but quite a bit heavier.
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: mattymonkey]
#4081778 - 04/21/05 03:28 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Use what ever, if it rusts fuck it, it dont matter. Plastic cans work but for a bail of straw the heating time is way to long for dumping hot water to work well and efficiently.
My stratagy is as fallows, Bail in drum rock on bail turkey fryer under drum water in drum lite turkey fryer crank up flame Cook till temp is reached for me 165 lower temp and keep at 165 for half the day take a winch atached above drum and grab the two string holding the bail lift out and let hang to drain move drum and replace with a table lower bail cut open and use.......
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#4083699 - 04/22/05 01:14 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sheik - you should first allow the water to reach temp before lowering the straw in. It will take waaaaay longer with all that straw in brother. From there it`s 2 hours for the straw. Simpler imo.
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: mattymonkey]
#4087813 - 04/23/05 07:35 AM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have used a food grade barrell in the past. Check out this post for a detail or two:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2812985/page//fpart/1/vc/1
I used a turkey fryer burner with a 55 gallon teflon coated barrell. It worked like a charm.
Best of luck to you!
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msmushrooms
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: mattymonkey]
#4157209 - 05/10/05 11:38 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have taken a 55 gallon barrel and laid it down and cut a 1 foot wide section out of the entire length of the barrel. After cooking the substrate I pull the bung plug and drain the water then roll the barrell over and let the substrate dump into a big rubber made tote box with several holes drilled on the bottem. I put the top on the tote to help prevent any unwanted stuff gettin in and then set the tote in the bath tub to finish draining and cooling. ( i bleach the tub real good first ) This works really great for me. I do about 30 pounds of dry cotton seed hulls at a time. OH - the barrell was not painted so after cleaning it real good I painted it with heat proof paint like barbque grill paint.
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: msmushrooms]
#4157229 - 05/10/05 11:41 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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So does that opening acomodate a whole bail, or do you place the straw in loose. I use whole bails.
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msmushrooms
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#4157501 - 05/10/05 12:41 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, I use cotton seed hulls but I know that a bail would not fit through that opening. However, if the bail was chopped first, it could be put through the opening. I think I read somewhere here though that you are putting your bails in whole. But, like i said, im using cotton seed hulls and the drum holds 30 lbs dry weight. I put 15 lbs dry weight to each bag I make.
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: msmushrooms]
#4157546 - 05/10/05 12:53 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah i use colums and try to make them as simply as possible. Chopping is an extra uneeded step imo. Im in the north so cotton seed hulls arnt accessable. I like the side idea but the water level i beleave wont cover the whole bail.
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
#4160816 - 05/11/05 05:37 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did you build a sturdy stand yet? It would be very easy for you, or even worse, some kid bumping that barrel on blocks and knocking it over, getting scalded badly. RR
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msmushrooms
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Re: Bulk Pasteurization of Straw in 55 Gallon Drum [Re: RogerRabbit]
#4160822 - 05/11/05 05:59 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am in the process of doing just that. I am adding another barrel to my operation and am building something like this so I want have that problem. The only difference in what I am doing and this picture is that I will not have the bar directly under the barrels but will move them to each end of the stand. That way I can put my burners directly under them. I am also making it higher off the ground so I can slide a Rubbermaid tote under them after they have cooked and drained and then I can roll the barrels and dump the substrate directly into the totes for additional cooling.
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