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Invisibledurban_poison
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what a package
    #4083501 - 04/22/05 01:40 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

buying my toads(bufo alvarius) this week. any comments? wondering when to milk and when and how to breed and how big of terrium since they grow large?


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Re: what a package [Re: durban_poison]
    #4083544 - 04/22/05 01:54 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You'll get chills all through your body
and you'll lose all control of your bladder
and your sphincter, that's your bum hole.

'Cos if you use toad, then I'm telling you...
You can kiss your life goodbye.

Yeah when you use toad,
It will mess you up.
It will make your mama cry
That's no lie,
You'll choke on your tounge and die

You've got to give it up
You got to give up the toad now
It's no joke buddy, give it up
You got to give up the toad now
Or you'll croke
You've got to give it up,
And don't smoke
Or you will see,
It hurts to pee

There'll be blood, gushing from ya
Everytime that you cough
And forget getting lucky,
It falls off

Yeah you'd better wise up
'Cos I'm telling you
Toad is what Lando forbids

Got to give it all up
Or you're gonna see
Your whole life will hit the skids
And your kids will be born without eyelids

You've got to give it up
You got to give up the toad now
Thanks to you
And just give it up
Give up the toad now (line sung by Brian)
Thanks to you

Give it up
Got to give up the toad now, Oh-oh-oooh
I'm no fool, Lando's cool
YEAH!!!


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Invisibledurban_poison
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Re: what a package [Re: TODAY]
    #4083604 - 04/22/05 02:22 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

sounds like fun


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Re: what a package [Re: durban_poison]
    #4084788 - 04/22/05 01:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

so your saying theirs more in the toad pus that pure DMT? some toxins? maybe you just had a moldy toad :smile:

post thought: it would be cool just to own a psychedelic toad. hey, how did you aquire it? i wouldnt mind having a psychdelic toad.


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Re: what a package [Re: Abermelin]
    #4084843 - 04/22/05 01:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

This is from erowid
"There are several species of toads which produce venom that has psychoactive properties. The venom of one species (Bufo alvarius) contains both 5-MeO-DMT and bufotenin, while several others contain only bufotenin."
No pure dmt. I have never done bufotenin or 5-MeO-DMT but both are active at lower doses than dmt and it is my understanding that they have a different magic than just DMT.

I always wondered what kind of relationship a person would have with a toad they milked. It would be like the toad represents the gateway to the spirit world or something.
Bow down before the toad!


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Re: what a package [Re: lonebuddha]
    #4085132 - 04/22/05 03:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: what a package [Re: purpledropper]
    #4085262 - 04/22/05 04:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

As the B. alvarius sits perfectly still, it rapidly wiggles a tiny finger on it's foot in order to entice some insect to mistake this movement for prey




That is so cool.


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Re: what a package [Re: namaste]
    #4085378 - 04/22/05 04:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

milking is kind of a bitch, we have attempted to milk frank and hennessey a couple times, but so far have only gotten 1 good solid one on the glass(wear goggles!!!! and gloves!!! our milker caught one on the face right above his eyes, and one on the shirt)...the problem is we are afraid to hurt the poor things while squeezing the glands....5meodmt is active at an extremely low dose, so be very careful and have a .001 scale..it contains around 15-25% after its dried ( you let it dry one the glass/plexiglass then scrape it up).

my guys are in a 55 gallon tank...and its not big enough...once i get a bigger stand they will go in my 80 gallon..that should do it...

good luck...and be careful with them...oh..and watch your pets...my cats dont realize that the toad could kill them rather quickly

namaste,

captmueller
chemical shaman


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Re: what a package [Re: captmueller]
    #4085385 - 04/22/05 04:55 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ohh and you can pull from the glands twice every 6 weeks or so...


namaste,

captmueller
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Re: what a package [Re: captmueller]
    #4087552 - 04/23/05 04:32 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yah u need two people to milk em effectively. You should watch out for local laws against those frogs, they are endangered.


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Re: what a package [Re: durban_poison]
    #4087639 - 04/23/05 05:12 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

interesting.. i wanna see how this turns out..


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Re: what a package [Re: Locus]
    #4087731 - 04/23/05 07:36 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Someone should be breeding them. :laugh:


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Re: what a package [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4091975 - 04/24/05 05:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Those toads run rampant here in the southern most state. Especially in the rainy months. I found a few babies in my moist bags of soil the other day. Beware, they might as well be called horny toads. As they like to reproduce like rabbits.


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Re: what a package [Re: OrangeVWCamper]
    #4092132 - 04/24/05 06:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I used to love my little toad. I filled the sink with water and watched him swim around. I used to catch fresh bugs for him every day, beatles. I would go to the play yard in the back of our house and we had these clay steps. I would life up the stepping stone and grab the beatles for my toad. Heh, bringin back the childhood memories here.


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Re: what a package [Re: durban_poison]
    #4092384 - 04/24/05 07:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I just wanted to remind you guys, it's still a living creature, not just some drug producer. I'm not saying you are, but I'm sure there are people who just buy them for the drug it, fortunately or unfortunately, produces and don't respect it as a living, breathing creature of this earth. Good luck, and be gentle with the little guy.


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Re: what a package [Re: theocean06]
    #4092724 - 04/24/05 08:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

True, but what about feeder mice: What about aphids and mosquito's? Everything is a living creature though. Are you aware that you have thousands of microorganisms living your in your mouth, stomach, intestines, anus, skin, hair, etc. Do you know that every time you scratch yourself you killing some microorganism? You know when you clean the mildew in your shower you killed a living organism. Why do some creatures get the benefit of the doubt compared to others? Why is a cow so special but an ant is a pest? Ant's are an very special species of insect, very amazing under a microscope or etc.

This is why those vegan people don't make logical sense. Don't eat cow but then perhaps you should kill yourself since every time you walk and breath you are killing some living organism. It is quite said is it not to always be killing organisms, I can't live with myself any longer. Furthermore, the only more pathetic thing is to observe nature itself. If you have any experience with animal planet on the discovery channel you would see that animals are quite frequently killed in the food cycle. Actually some animals are classified as "carnivores," they specifically eat only animals. They have sharp front teeth that are meant for slicing the prey open and piercing the matter. Much is like a humans front teeth, they are sharp and pointed, meant for slicing meat open. Herbivores have flat shaped teeth, meant for grinding plant matter. Hey we have those as well, yet those are the molar teeth in the back of our jaws.

If you want to get even further into it, why are animals special but not plants? Aren't plants living, breathing entities? Isn't it wrong to grow a mushroom to consume it? Not under the sense other than you are destroying something in nature. You tell me what makes a toad so special compared to a tree. No one has a real answer, just everyone follows the leader and says don't kill the animals like some Nazi following. I think it must be "group think." No one thinks for themselves, everyone just follows this uneducated Martha Stewart proposition that this is the "right way."


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Re: what a package [Re: Fluxburn]
    #4093991 - 04/25/05 02:55 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Nice post Fluxburn i agree and have killed many feeder mice to pets..

On the other hand leave the damn toads alone :grin:


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Re: what a package [Re: Dety]
    #4094042 - 04/25/05 03:25 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Where are you purchasing your Bufo Alvarius toad from?


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Re: what a package [Re: SuperMario]
    #4094155 - 04/25/05 04:26 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

How much toad slime do you have to collect? This seems like a really nasty way to get some DMT, isn't it easier and more pleasant to get it from Mimosa or Desmanthus? Or is it just the bizarro factor of getting drugs from a toad?


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Re: what a package [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4095229 - 04/25/05 03:37 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Dood how hard is it to milk a toad, dry the venom then smoke it? Other wise you have to grind mhrb, add to acidified water, soak, use a base, seperate with naptha, seperate naptha, etc. etc.


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