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is it legal?
    #4080744 - 04/21/05 12:33 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

is it legal to order mushroom spores to USA? or is it legal anywhere in the US? its porbably a stupid question. but eh if you can help me out any?


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Re: is it legal? [Re: PreparationH]
    #4080769 - 04/21/05 12:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It is legal except iun California and one other state I have forgotten. Pennsyvania is legal though, no worries!


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Re: is it legal? [Re: whatever123]
    #4080789 - 04/21/05 12:45 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

WOO HOOO i read one other state i was like aw crap. im not planning on growing them yet maybe in a little bit, thanks a lot


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Re: is it legal? [Re: PreparationH]
    #4080987 - 04/21/05 01:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It's California, Georgia and the recently added Idaho.


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Re: is it legal? [Re: PreparationH]
    #4083982 - 04/22/05 06:52 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

My understanding, and I am no lawyer, is that it is legal unless you intend to cultivate the spores. With this in mind, ordering spores along with a microscope is legal while ordering spores along with a book on how to grow mushrooms is illegal. What a twisted world we live in...


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Re: is it legal? [Re: Seuss]
    #4097800 - 04/26/05 02:00 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Not exactly. You can order the spores, substrate, pressure cooker, the works, and it is legal. Hey, you may already own a microscope and the spores are for microscopy and the rest of the stuff is for growing shiitake. You can order spores with anything you want.


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Re: is it legal? [Re: whatever123]
    #4097997 - 04/26/05 07:30 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

> You can order spores with anything you want.

In the US, if you ordered P. Cubensis spores with a book on how to grow magic mushrooms, and the cops get ahold of the package, they will charge you with intent to manufacture a controlled substance and you will most likely spend time in prison unless you are very lucky, or very wealthy.

> Hey, you may already own a microscope and the spores are for microscopy and the rest of the stuff is for growing shiitake.

Spoken by somebody that has never tangled with the long arm of the law. Contrary to popular belief, police (for the most part) are not stupid.

> You can order spores with anything you want.

Some of the absolute worst advise I have ever heard.


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Re: is it legal? [Re: Seuss]
    #4098459 - 04/26/05 12:42 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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In the US, if you ordered P. Cubensis spores with a book on how to grow magic mushrooms, and the cops get ahold of the package, they will charge you with intent to manufacture a controlled substance and you will most likely spend time in prison unless you are very lucky, or very wealthy.





I completely disagree with this.  :frown: :thumbdown:

Can you present one single mushroom bust case where someone was booked on "intent to manufacture mushrooms" based purely on research materials gathered, and no actual mushroom finds?  We aren't dealing with high profile narcotics here.

Look, contrary to popular paranoid belief, there aren't entire law enforcement divisions set up solely to monitor and intercept mail just for the hell of it, so let's stop scaring people into thinking that there are.  In truth, the mail system is extremely safe.

You really have to cause a lot of commotion to get mail traces and surveillance established on your residence.  I don't see the average shroomery member creating this much ruckus ordering some spores, a book and a microscope.  Tax dollars have bigger fish to catch.


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Re: is it legal? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4098882 - 04/26/05 02:47 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Damn double post.


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Re: is it legal? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4098886 - 04/26/05 02:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"Look, contrary to popular paranoid belief, there aren't entire law enforcement divisions set up solely to monitor and intercept mail just for the hell of it, so let's stop scaring people into thinking that there are. In truth, the mail system is extremely safe."

Wrong. I have known more people busted for mail than anything else. And there are entire LE divisions set up just to monitor mail.

Ordering spores is relatively safe, but I still wouldn't recommend ordering them to the growhouse.


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Re: is it legal? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4099862 - 04/26/05 07:25 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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In the US, if you ordered P. Cubensis spores with a book on how to grow magic mushrooms, and the cops get ahold of the package, they will charge you with intent to manufacture a controlled substance and you will most likely spend time in prison unless you are very lucky, or very wealthy.





I completely disagree with this.  :frown: :thumbdown:

Can you present one single mushroom bust case where someone was booked on "intent to manufacture mushrooms" based purely on research materials gathered, and no actual mushroom finds?  We aren't dealing with high profile narcotics here.

Look, contrary to popular paranoid belief, there aren't entire law enforcement divisions set up solely to monitor and intercept mail just for the hell of it, so let's stop scaring people into thinking that there are.  In truth, the mail system is extremely safe.

You really have to cause a lot of commotion to get mail traces and surveillance established on your residence.  I don't see the average shroomery member creating this much ruckus ordering some spores, a book and a microscope.  Tax dollars have bigger fish to catch.


 

  I actually was booked on intent to manufacture, for having a PC spores, and a terrarium... My lawyer got the charge dropped in like 2 min. in court though...


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Re: is it legal? [Re: Kalix]
    #4099869 - 04/26/05 07:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It wasn't beacause they where monitoring my mail tho, it was because they where raiding my house to bust my dad who was growing pot medically. (He's probably gettin' out soon)


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Re: is it legal? [Re: Holydiver]
    #4102213 - 04/27/05 12:05 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Can you present one single mushroom bust case where someone was booked on "intent to manufacture mushrooms" based purely on research materials gathered, and no actual mushroom finds?




Yes, there are several examples that have been posted on these forums and many news articles as well. See the above post by Kalix as an example. Granted, in his case he got off easy with a good lawyer, but only because he was smart about it and didn't incriminate himself the way most people would. I am also guessing he is out some money paying for that lawyer... most public defenders would have tried to plea rather than get the case dropped.

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We aren't dealing with high profile narcotics here.




Cops don't care... a ton of heroin or a single mushroom stem... either one will land you in jail.


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Re: is it legal? [Re: Seuss]
    #4106047 - 04/28/05 09:28 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

the mail systems is not safe at all you can ship anything afoaf sent two guns threw the mail and a ounce in the same box got there quick and timely the guns were legal though


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