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Voacanga
    #4078940 - 04/20/05 10:55 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I just recieved a whole shitload of voacanga seeds(much to my surprise) in the mail along with my 50 hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. I realize there are not any trip reports on voacanga (only one here, and one on erowid) and because I am taking these tonight, I figured I would keep you guys updated on how these things work for me. I plan on taking them in an hour or so, so around 9 o clock pacific I will begin chewing 30 seeds.

I ate one seed a few minutes ago to test the flavor. It is very earthy. I guess that is the same as bitter? I never understood that word, bitter. Taste like dirt thoug, which is not too bad. But I still taste it.


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Re: Voacanga [Re: whatever123]
    #4079016 - 04/20/05 11:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I will be continually editing this number. Partly for you and partly so I can keep track of the ammount of seeds I eat.


I have eaten
30 (done!)
seeds so far tonight.


I am also washing each seed down with coca cola. Although the taste is not that bad, it is still unpleasant. Plus they have been getting stuck in my molars.


Alright: Recap. I ate 30 seeds, each with a sip of coca cola (they really can taste bad) at 8:30 pm PST.

My eyelids are a little wierd, but it could be placebo. I will let you know as this unfolds.


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Re: Voacanga [Re: whatever123]
    #4079037 - 04/20/05 11:22 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I also recieved some voacanga seeds with the purchase of 50 HBWR seeds. I haven't tried them yet though because there were a few trip reports I found that didn't look good so I'm still debating on whether to try them. Let us know how it turns out.


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Re: Voacanga [Re: Kenny7822]
    #4079128 - 04/20/05 11:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Did you buy through BouncingBearBotanicals?


Trip Updat: 20 minutes, nothing yet. Perhaps it is effective only whe sleeping, and the next day, the effects you feel are just a mental hangover of your previous night's sleep?


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Re: Voacanga [Re: whatever123]
    #4079192 - 04/21/05 12:03 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

thats interesting, I was just making an order and trying to decide if I should buy some voacanga with it. I didn't. had I known you were doing this I might have held out.


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Re: Voacanga [Re: lonebuddha]
    #4079394 - 04/21/05 12:51 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Don't. Nothing is happening, and my friend found several other experience things on erowid. Four, actually. All of them that felt anything felt very mild things. And the next day, they all felt horrible stomach pains. Look at erowid, it says it is a poison, those experiences prove it. Glad I only took 30. But, I will update tomorow after sleeping. Regardless of if it works or not. Just fpr closure.


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Re: Voacanga [Re: whatever123]
    #4079491 - 04/21/05 01:13 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Well, I am going to sleep now (10:13 pm), I will let you all know later.


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Re: Voacanga [Re: whatever123]
    #4080316 - 04/21/05 10:14 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Okay, I didn't get to sleep until about....WEll, the last time I saw the clock was at 11:33. I take prescription amphetamines though, so that is regular for me.


I was woken up by my mother a half hour ago to give a urine sample.

The only dream that I kind of remember involved my mother driving me(don't ask why, I don't know) somewhere and talking to me about 4/20. I told her that I didn't get high and stuff, and I told her my reasons why I didn't. She said okay, she just didn't believe me before.

That is all I remember.

Nothing special. I would increase dose next time, but it just tastes bloody horrible. Maybe if I had a mortar and pestle or something, I could grind the seeds up and put the powder into a Sprite or Coke or something.


Maybe you can snort these (in powder form, of course)? Nasty to snort, but it may work better. 



But for my 30 seed trial. The results are in. And they scream out:  :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:


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Re: Voacanga [Re: whatever123]
    #4080371 - 04/21/05 10:42 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Huh, i've read some pretty cool things about voacanga. I just got two 500mg samples of voacanga bark, from a fellow shroomerite. He said to take a break from smoking at least a few days before you try it, do you smoke? I'll post here when i give it a try.


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Re: Voacanga --- seeds vs. roots [Re: LiveByFreedom]
    #4080643 - 04/21/05 11:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

somebody once said:
the chemmies (tabersonine)in the seeds are quite different from the chemmies (tabernanthine & voacangine) in the (root) bark...


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Re: Voacanga --- seeds vs. roots [Re: gnrm23]
    #4080678 - 04/21/05 12:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have not smoked in a month.


I just ground up and ae 6 HBWR seeds an hour ago, and still nothing. I put the powder on a pizza after I took it from the microwave. Later, I ate some fried portobello mushrooms(delicious with salt and tarragon), and have just finished an apple.

I have experienced no nausea, but have not experienced any other effects either. So I am getting kind of pissed.
Is there a problem with having a full stomach? Does it iunhibit the effects? Because had a full stomach with voacanga seeds too.


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Re: Voacanga --- seeds vs. roots [Re: whatever123]
    #4080746 - 04/21/05 12:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Actually, i'm pretty sure if you try it with an empty stomache (fasting for a day, before ingesting most psychoactive substances is good), you'll get noticeable effects. Tell us how it goes :cool:


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Re: Voacanga --- seeds vs. roots [Re: LiveByFreedom]
    #4080797 - 04/21/05 12:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Damn, I am going to Kansas City tomorow with my family for a relative's wedding. We get back on sunday. I have school all next week. I have to wait until NEXT WEEKEND to try this again? And they taste like shit???? Goddamnit!




**EDIT**

Maybe I will wait for some seeds I want on the free seed thread and then give out 150 of these.


I am going to do another trial tonight, okay people? This time, I will ingest all the seeds at once. And instead of chewing them, I will grind them up first and add them to some chocolate milk or something. Anythig where the nasty brown won't show.

And this time, it will be 50 seeds, not 30. I am not going to jump up and say I will do 100 or anything because I am only 130 lbs, and I don't want to do the same number that got bigger people in pain.

Wish me luck 

:syringe:...(10 seconds later)... :crazy2:


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Re: Voacanga --- seeds vs. roots [Re: whatever123]
    #4081564 - 04/21/05 04:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You know what? Why have only one person try these, they were free, and I don't think I really feel like fasting or doing anything special. Besides, I take Prozac and Ritalin. With the very limited information on this drug, who knows how powerful its interaction with an amphetamine or an SSRI (or something like that) is?

So fuck it, time to get me some good Karma :wink:

You guys seem interested in this?
Well, in my garage, I just counted out and sealed 4 bags of 50 Voacanga seeds. I figure that because they have come to so many people for free from online companies when they order, and because when sold by itself, a bag is usually only $5, these are not worth putting into the free seed forum, as I would feel bad for taking someone's seeds that are actually worth something and offering up seeds that
1) We are not sure work well
2) I am not sure of their viability
3) We want reports about from people recieving them.

So I am offering them to the first 4 people that PM me. Send a PM to me with the subject "Voacanga", include your address in the message, and be one of the first four people to do it, and I send you a pack of 50 seeds. Only one condition: You have to PM me when you get the seeds, and then, within a week of receiving the seeds, one of you must make a thread titled "Voacanga Experiences", or something of that nature, and you all must post your voacanga experiences. It would be appreciated, too, if you submitted your experiences to Erowid.

I am going to leave for a vacation tomorow, and the USPS guy came by already (almost, probobly by the time I get any PMs he will have) and picked up my mail. So, I will probobly be able to mail you your seeds sometime next week though. So be patient. And enjoy them :smile:

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Re: Voacanga --- seeds vs. roots [Re: whatever123]
    #4081683 - 04/21/05 05:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

PM'd. Btw, if you do send me seeds, i'd grow some of them and eat about 40 of them. Peace


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Re: Voacanga --- seeds vs. roots [Re: LiveByFreedom]
    #4082012 - 04/21/05 06:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Like I said, I am not sure of their viability. But they are not sold for consumption, so I guess that their is likely some law that some are viable.


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Re: Voacanga [Re: whatever123]
    #4084138 - 04/22/05 09:36 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Hey whatever,

Look at this way, you ate the seeds, you received a dream. That's consistent.  Some allies can be quite shy.  I know people that say they never remember their dreams, this could be of great benefit to them.  There is no "magic bullet" for Lucidity, without some practice, mnemonic devices, etc. Lucidity can be quite rare.  I believe this to be a training wheels of sorts for even seasoned Lucid dreamers.

gnrm23, you are just a wealth of info :smile:


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Re: Voacanga [Re: namaste]
    #4084148 - 04/22/05 09:42 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Most of the alkaloids in Voacanga africana, are stored in the bark. I'm thinking, seeds for growing, bark for eating.


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Re: Voacanga [Re: LiveByFreedom]
    #4084393 - 04/22/05 11:23 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yes indeed. Hopefully the (bark) reports come in soon, and there was sufficient material for testing.


pics
http://www.google.com/custom?q=Voacanga+...h=shroomery.org


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    #4086485 - 04/22/05 11:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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