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These lids make me mad!!
    #4076193 - 04/20/05 10:33 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Damn it!!

Anyway. I've been having some minor problems with my grow. It's the first time I've experimented with WBS and things are sucking ass right now. I did a batch of 3 different kinds of jars at first this time.

(5) PF 1/2 pint style jars with aluminum foil lids
(5) PF 1/2 pint style jars with double layer of tyvek/ (2) 1/4 in holes on the top stuffed with polyfill.
and (3), 1qt WBS jars with the same double layer tyvek lid / holes/ polyfill as the one above.

The ONLY ones that have started to colonize (it's been about 8 or 9 days since inoculation) are the ones with aluminum foil tops!! LOL! What a fucker!!

Do I have a problem here?? The PF jars were prepared the same way... and were all from the same mixing bowl. Is it the double layer of tyvek?? Ahhhhhh!!!!!!!.. I'm so frustrated!

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Re: These lids make me mad!! [Re: Sammy]
    #4076233 - 04/20/05 10:51 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Why did you use two (2) layers of tyvek? More isn't always better.


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Re: These lids make me mad!! [Re: agar]
    #4076251 - 04/20/05 10:58 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I used 2 layers of Tyvek because that's what I was told to do. The most recent jars (inoculated today.. 4:20.. LUCKY JARS) were done with punching (2), 1/4 in holes on the top and only using 1 layer of Tyvek. Then rubberbanded 1 layer of coffee filter on the top.. then a second.. then pressure cooked.

Can you see any reason the jars are stalling?? All of them were inoculated with liquid myc .. via Karo TEK.

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Re: These lids make me mad!! [Re: Sammy]
    #4076285 - 04/20/05 11:11 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Your restricting air exchange with two layers of tyvek and on one you used two layers of tyvek ANY polyfil? Same goes double for that one..

Also if you didnt shake the syringe before injecting, that can cause a problem.


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Re: These lids make me mad!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4076319 - 04/20/05 11:22 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

syringe was shaken before injection... shaken before injecting each jar actually. What's the problem here?? Anyone??

Is it air exchange??

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Re: These lids make me mad!! [Re: Sammy]
    #4076335 - 04/20/05 11:30 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

>Is it air exchange??

Quite likly though other varibles can do such things. Such as uneven heating or temps, uneven water content, packing in the substrate to tight into the jars, and others.


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Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: These lids make me mad!! [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4076347 - 04/20/05 11:37 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno about that one man...

I 'packed' the brf/verm/water mix the same into every single jar. I did all 10 in a row then lidded them all. It's wierd that NONE of the ones with new kinds of lids (non alum foil) are the ones that dont work.

What the hell...


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Re: These lids make me mad!! [Re: Sammy]
    #4076513 - 04/20/05 12:34 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I agree with Agar & SMR, 2 layers of tyvek, and 1 layer of polyfill is an overkill.

WHen I make an occasional cake I do it with PP-jars covered with aluminium foil. 4 holes in it, and a nother layer of foil.

Nice verm layer, no contams.

MF


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Re: These lids make me mad!! [Re: Sammy]
    #4076722 - 04/20/05 01:33 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Sammy said:
I dunno about that one man...

I 'packed' the brf/verm/water mix the same into every single jar. I did all 10 in a row then lidded them all. It's wierd that NONE of the ones with new kinds of lids (non alum foil) are the ones that dont work.

What the hell...




Which is why its most likly your gas exchange. Stick with a single layer of tyvek and lid (with two holes, one you inject and one you leave untaped...you didnt tape over all the holes did you?) for whole grains and for PF Tek, just the dry verm layer and tin foil. Thats all you need for either and the less you do, the better the gas exchange will be.

Either way its only been 5 days, your worried way to much about it this soon...they should still do ok (depending, that one with tyvek and polyfil might be way to much) if everything else is done right and they can get SOME gas exchange..


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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