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OfflineBorgFace
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Ayahuasca with freebase DMT
    #4075702 - 04/20/05 02:42 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I was wondering if freebase DMT can be used in an ayahuasca brew and if anything has to be done to alter its chemical composition. From what I remember DMT exists as a salt (HCl?) in ayahuasca so obviously it undergoes some chemical reaction to convert it into a smokable form.

I am also aware that a MAOI is required so if someone could direct me to an appropriate vendor it would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

Borg.


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Re: Ayahuasca with freebase DMT [Re: BorgFace]
    #4076098 - 04/20/05 07:54 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

freebase can absolutely be thrown in with your ayahuasca but dont exactly plan on getting it back out. As soon as the dmt hits the ayahuasca it will turn acidic (HCL or sulfuric acid is normally used) and will blend with the rest of the mixture.

Before you do that i would recommend that you smoke the freebase! seeing as how ayahuasca feels like sand paper going down your throat and requires a lot of puking.

A good place for an maoi is bouncingbearbotanicals.com. order their syrian rue, its pretty cheap and a little goes a long ways. It will also most likely ship in 5 days.

good luck


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Re: Ayahuasca with freebase DMT [Re: TheHook]
    #4076266 - 04/20/05 09:03 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

eh no. by using DMT you mean taking an MAOI precursor, then ingesting 200mg of DMT freebase? it doesnt work, ive tried it. Throwing it into an acidic solution does no better as your solution isnt even close to being as acidic as your stomach.

i know, the theory of changing it back into its HCL sounds feasable, but it just doesnt work. i think maybe that simply adding HCL ( either by acid or by stomach acid ) changes it into something thats not psychoactive anymore. i got a plate full of crystals when i tried that once, though the crystals would pull water from the air and the volume was exponentionally higher than the amount of freebase i used, so its anyones guess as to what that was.

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Re: Ayahuasca with freebase DMT [Re: Abermelin]
    #4076271 - 04/20/05 09:05 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

oh, and pulling shit like that will piss off the ayahuasca spirit. i will guarantee you a bad trip if you dont treat DMT with respect. But i guess you'll learn its wrath for yourself.

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