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HBWR Fatal?
    #4068508 - 04/18/05 01:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I was just looking around the net and i came up at this site named Toke Up and one of thier members (Desert Cat) said, "Just so you know if you are going to try them, Hawaiian Baby Woodrose can be dangerous or fatal. Not just the husks but the seeds themselves contain cyanogenic glucosides which break down to form cyanide. Cyanide basically shuts down your blood's ability to transport oxygen. With enough, your limbs turn blue, your muscles cramp severely, and it can kill you. Twelve seeds should be the absolute maximum you ever take, as the really unpleasant effects seem to be reported at dosages above that. This is even with the brown fuzzy coating scraped off."

Is this true?
HEres a link to the forums : http://www.tokeup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2561


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Re: HBWR Fatal? [Re: sublimistri]
    #4068515 - 04/18/05 02:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

There is cyanide on them... though I'm not sure how much you would have to take for it to actually become dangerous.

Although I don't think they should be consumed with the husks on them.


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Re: HBWR Fatal? [Re: sublimistri]
    #4068537 - 04/18/05 02:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think thats entirely true. I've talked to to people who have taken over 30. If you prepare them right and stick with 5-15 seeds you will be fine.

btw pure lemon juice should completely kill any nausea if you drink some during or after eating the seeds.


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Re: HBWR Fatal? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4068590 - 04/18/05 02:24 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

What is in the lemon juice that will stop it? BEcause when i took HBWR I ate some oranges and it seemed to increase my nausea.


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Re: HBWR Fatal? [Re: sublimistri]
    #4068629 - 04/18/05 02:39 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have no idea whats in lemon juice that stops it. Somebody posted the lemon juice thing last year, so I thought I'd try it because even 5 seeds made me sick, so I ate 10 seeds and drank a shot or so of pure lemon juice and didn't have nausea at all.


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Re: HBWR Fatal? [Re: sublimistri]
    #4068642 - 04/18/05 02:45 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

A while back a member named moecat (haven't seen him around in a while...odd) Anyways, he performed some GC/MS tests on HBWR seeds, and concluded that it could well be another chemical besides cyanogenic glycosides that causes nausea. Actually I believe it was a chemical present in coffee too, just in a different ratio (hence no nausea from coffee)


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Re: HBWR Fatal? [Re: sublimistri]
    #4068830 - 04/18/05 04:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

HBWR and normal morning glories can make some people very sick and make anybody sick in high ebough dosses. I think the blue limb stuff is real if taken in high enough dosses. And I have heard that their are small amounts of cyanide compunds in them.

I have never heard of any one dieing from HBWR seeds or Morning glories but it does seem possible. Also in a more general sense, too much of just about any chemical will be fatal at some point.


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