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Panaeolus Separatus?
    #406312 - 09/27/01 04:06 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

This past summer I had the oppurtunity to visit a mountain valley in New Mexico quite frequently. It was located at about 9.5k feet, very damp and very cool. The mushroom diversity of the place was fantastic, probably due mostly to the wide variety environments ranging from manured marshy pastures, to damp coniferous forests, to dry grassy hillsides. In identifying mushrooms I was working solely off of Orson Miller's handbook.

There were a lot of fairly standard mushrooms out there, the ubiquitous A. Muscaria late in the season, also A. Vaginata. A few agaricus species provided some tasty eating most commonly arvensis. A Russian friend of mine made a great pototo garlic stew with Boletus Edulis. Red russulas could be found under most conifers during the wettest part of the summer. Psaltharea species grew abundantly on the sides of partially buried logs. White puffballs predominated.

Many coprophilic species also sprouted. One type I was fairly sure of was Stropharia Semiglobata, small hemispherical caps, thin stems, dark purplish prints. Panaeolus Campanulutus/Returgis were also around. I was very confused by one type, however. It appered in on the shoulders of the season, at times when it was relatively dry and temps ranged from the 30s at night to the 70s during the day. Miller's key id'd it strongly as Panaelous Separatus, black print, mid stem ring stained black, widish base, growing on horse (actually in the this case burro) manure, white conic viscid cap. The only discrepancy was that Miller listed the cap as smooth where all the examples I found were clearly wrinkled. The main confusion, though, came in consulting other texts and online sources. I couldn't find any text references to a species of that name. Miller's classification of the species as hallucinogenic led me to online sources specializing in psilocin species, erowid.org, here. Yet I haven't found any good references to the species. Anyone have any idea as to a more common name for the species? Is this designation unique to Miller?

Thanks,

Mel



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Re: Panaeolus Separatus? [Re: mel668]
    #407364 - 09/28/01 11:18 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Did you find any panaeolus antilarum ?

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Re: Panaeolus Separatus? [Re: MAIA]
    #407471 - 09/28/01 02:10 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Not that I identified as such, but the description by John Allen at http://mjshroomer.yage.net/species14abc.html given for that species certainly matches what I was calling P. separatus. In addtion, Allen's description of P. sphinctrinus matches another species I saw that I was able to key down to P. but was not able to speciate.



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Re: Panaeolus Separatus? [Re: mel668]
    #407500 - 09/28/01 02:36 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I have no idea what mushroom you found, as I could only find anythng meaningful of it: You post in poetry! Yep, your entire post smells like poetry until the last few lines, man! Much, much drama in such a simple question or review of facts!
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