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 Swami
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 S&P Paradoxes 
#4055363 - 04/14/05 03:36 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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"We are all one, but I still hate you!"
"The only time is now, even though I am still simmering about how you slighted me 3 years ago."
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Psychoactive1984
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 Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: Swami]
#4055369 - 04/14/05 03:37 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Isn't "one" the loneliest number according to that one song (forget the name)? ~Depressing.
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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: Swami]
#4055384 - 04/14/05 03:40 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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"... as now is now, you are watching your hands now, and taking that shower now, you were even born now ..."
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Swami
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The song is "One" by the Three Dog Night - probably 1968.
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trinity7
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: Gomp]
#4055433 - 04/14/05 03:49 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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...according to Filter. The song was in the X File movie.
Hey Swami, you?re smart aren?t you ? So are you trying to tease us or what ?
Of course these paradoxes only occur if you confuse the levels of reality, whenever you mix the absolute with the relative.
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: trinity7]
#4055487 - 04/14/05 03:58 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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/sigh
Hear we go again..
The absolute what? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
Nothing is absolute with the exception of how we percieve it to be such. The absolute is but relative, anything absolute is a contrived concept created by man.
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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: Swami]
#4055510 - 04/14/05 04:02 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?
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trinity7
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@psychoactice: The absolute IS while the relative comes and goes.
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Quote:
Paradigm said:
What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?
give me the money, bitch, before i kill you and your entire family.
that right?
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: automan]
#4055640 - 04/14/05 04:26 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, but close enough.
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Icelander
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: Swami]
#4055648 - 04/14/05 04:27 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Swami said:
"We are all one, but I still hate you!"
"The only time is now, even though I am still simmering about how you slighted me 3 years ago."
Yeah, I noticed. 
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: Swami]
#4055655 - 04/14/05 04:29 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. 
Or to elaborate:
Human beings are paradoxical and hypocritical by nature. This is not something limited to S+P, nor is it something limited to certain members of S+P.
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Gomp
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Quote:
Paradigm said:
What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?
Make me one with
everything...
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Icelander
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Quote:
Paradigm said:
What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?
Mustard
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: Gomp]
#4055698 - 04/14/05 04:40 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Gomp said:
Quote:
Paradigm said:
What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?
Make me one with
everything...
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Psychoactive1984
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: trinity7]
#4055706 - 04/14/05 04:42 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nah, our concept of the absolute is why the relative exists, nothing more. All our absolutions are relative; absolution is an ideal as much as is perfection, and love... it's different to the observer.
It's our relative concept of what is, that defines absolute.
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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.
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trinity7
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Quote:
Psychoactive1984 said:
All our absolutions are relative; absolution is an ideal as much as is perfection, and love... it's different to the observer.
I beg to differ: the absolute appears when the observer subsides.
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Psychoactive1984
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: trinity7]
#4055794 - 04/14/05 05:13 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok, please show me an example of someone who stops observing... so absolution occurs when we are braindead or cut ourselves off from the external world? Show me someone who is capable of doing such, and what good it has done them.
If the absolute existed, their'd be no need to have this discussion, as it would be absolutely known, without any form of conjecture in way of its interpretation... mankind knows absolution like he knows god... he has faith in it, yet can't prove it. As I've looked for absolution beyond interpretation, and have yet to find it. Does it exist?  have faith... 
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"Their is one overriding question that concerns us all: How can we get out of the fatal groove we are in, the one that is leading towards the brink?" Albert Szent-Gyorgyi
"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.
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trinity7
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Nah, going braindead is not necessary. The mind just stops, it can?t grasp this anyhow.
It?s not about someone who stops observing, it?s about that `someone` disappearing. Or more precisely: about realising that `someone`has never been there in the first place.
P.S. No, I?m not consuming anything right now.
Writing about this is hard, somehow language doesn?t seem to be designed to describe it.
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Re: S&P Paradoxes [Re: Gomp]
#4055849 - 04/14/05 05:32 PM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Gomp said:
Quote:
Paradigm said:
What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?
Make me one with
everything...
OMG! That's so funny! 
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