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strait verm casing, no signs

#4054064 - 04/14/05 09:53 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

i made a casing with strait verm about 4 1/2 days ago. 3 1/2 pint cakes, no light, at around mid to upper 80's. As of now there is no sign of mycelium coming up. I do take the lid off once a day to check, which is the only time it gets fresh air and a bit of light. Could this be causing the problem? How long should I wait before checking it again?

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Re: strait verm casing, no signs

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#4054118 - 04/14/05 10:09 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

I have never cased with just verm but my casings usually start showing growth/need to be patched by day 2/3. By day 3/4 I have the casing in the fruiting chamber.

Again I have never ever cased with just straight verm. In fact I don't understand why you would?

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#4054139 - 04/14/05 10:20 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

I case with str8 vermiculite and i haven't had a single problem. my guess is that your casing layer might be too thick and the mycellium is haveing a hard time pokeing it's head through.

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Re: strait verm casing, no signs

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#4054174 - 04/14/05 10:31 AM (19 years, 6 days ago)

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thenewguy05 said:
I case with str8 vermiculite and i haven't had a single problem. my guess is that your casing layer might be too thick and the mycellium is haveing a hard time pokeing it's head through.

^That sounds like the problem^

My experience with straight verm has been great, I just use a very thin layer, 1/8"-1/4" I've never had mycelium colonize straight verm such as it would a normal casing layer, more like form primordia underneath the wet verm.

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#4055136 - 04/14/05 02:21 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

if i put too thick of a casing layer on, can i use a clean utensil and take some off?

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#4055155 - 04/14/05 02:30 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

You sure can.

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#4055163 - 04/14/05 02:32 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

thanks diver... one more thing

you said you never got the same mycelium colonization on a verm casing layer... what should i wait to see/when should i stop incubating?

it has been almost 5 days

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#4055167 - 04/14/05 02:34 PM (19 years, 6 days ago)

I wouldn't keep any with straight verm that long in the incubator. Like I said, it probably won't colonize it much. Introduce it to fruiting conditions, and keep that verm plenty moist so primordia can form on it.

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