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Offlineexclusive58
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The Problem, is You and I
    #4053521 - 04/14/05 07:12 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

The world is not something other than You and I: the world, the society, are the relationships that we establish, or that we try to establish between ourselves. In that manner the problem is not other than You and I, and not the world, because the world is a projection of oursleves, and to understand it, we must understand ourselves. It isn't isolated from us; we are the world, and our problems are its problems.

Think about it...


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: exclusive58]
    #4053557 - 04/14/05 07:46 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"The Problem is not a Problem, unless you make it a Problem, or I try to solve it!"
-Unknown :P

(early in the morning)


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: exclusive58]
    #4053655 - 04/14/05 09:05 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

OT: That must have been really early, Gomp :P Did you wake n bake? I know I did *puts down bong*

Actually exclusive, the problem at large is selfishness...mainly the stupid flavor. That and the world is falling to madness and chaos. Oh its all good, though.

Because I'm with Gomp (or what I think he was trying to express), there are no negative problems, everything is staged comedy. Just laugh, learn, and face fear. The rest is essentially bullshit. Very interesting bullshit, though.


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: psyka]
    #4053663 - 04/14/05 09:14 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You and I is no problem.

Its the existence.

You and I have always been, and will always be.

The problem is the word problem. Stop using it.


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: slaphappy]
    #4053665 - 04/14/05 09:16 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Yes use the word 'issues' instead. Its much more Ricki Lake style.


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: egghead1]
    #4053736 - 04/14/05 09:53 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

How about using the words "FUCK IT" more often?

This problem bullshit is no problem for a grand master like FUCK IT!


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: exclusive58]
    #4053983 - 04/14/05 11:28 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I see where you're comming from and I agree. :thumbup: :heart: :mushroom2:


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: slaphappy]
    #4054309 - 04/14/05 01:00 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

To live is to suffer. That's the problem.

You must have lived a blissful life up until now to be able to say "this problem bullshit is no problem"...


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: exclusive58]
    #4054485 - 04/14/05 01:39 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

"The only problem, is the problem."
-Unknown :P


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: exclusive58]
    #4055057 - 04/14/05 03:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Nice take on it... I see the problem as being in terms of limitations, and as such humans not placing limits upon themselves...

We all know their is a finite amount of resources, whether it be an idea to share, a product to taut and pawn off, or a relationship to be manifested in the way we see it. All is limited, yet humans don't really see it as such, and we further exacerbate any situation by not placing finite limitations on finite resources, and instead believe that everything will last as long as our greed/desire/motivation to dominate/control/manipulate a situation.

The distinguishing factor of "you" and "I" certainly plays into this, as if it were just "me" their wouldn't be an issue about limitations.

Just my take, don't know how much sense it makes :tongue:.


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: Psychoactive1984]
    #4055260 - 04/14/05 05:06 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Woah. If it weren't for the fact that I know I've only registered here once, and I don't exactly trip regularly, I could swear I wrote that first post!
At the least, I couldn't have put it better myself. The funneist thing is, I only began thinking that way after my first (and so far only) shroom trip...now there's an idea. Do shrooms induce very similar such thoughts in almost everyone who experiences them?


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: newjon]
    #4055300 - 04/14/05 05:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

~no.

Does coffee produce the same effects, or adderal or ritalin in all those that consume them any more so then the general affects?

Why hold mushrooms in a similar frame of mind?


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"We may not be capable of eradicating the corruption of reason, but we must nevertheless counter it at every instance and with every means." Dan Agin
"Politics is the best religion and politicians are the worst followers."
-It's ok to trip as long as you don't fall.
-Substance over Style.
-Common sense is uncommon.


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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: newjon]
    #4055637 - 04/14/05 06:24 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Of the people I know who use them for spiritual growth. Almost always! :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: The Problem, is You and I [Re: exclusive58]
    #4058136 - 04/15/05 11:29 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You say a lot what is not instead what is, making it unecessarily complicated & contradicting.


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