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LiveByFreedom
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#4051362 - 04/13/05 04:32 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I bought this $150 pipe for my really good friends birthday in december, and a couple weeks back this dude stole it at a party he threw. We had no clue who stole it until a few days ago when one of my friends smoked with him out of it. My friend is too much of a pussy to do anything about it, so i acted.
So, my friend and i go pick this british dude up, saying we're gonna smoke a bowl with him. He gets in the car, i introduce myself as somebody else, and we drive off. I ask him directly if he has the pipe, and he doesn't fuck around and says 'yes'. I asked him what he plans to do with it, and he says keep it. He says he'll give something else back in return, even saying he could hook us up with females (no way would i want to associate with any of this guys friends in any way, and i have a beautiful girlfriend). I said no, and that if we didn't have the pipe in our hands by tomorrow, i'll continually beat his ass until we get the pipe back. His face turned red and he tried justifying stealing the pipe, and saying he'd give us something else in return. I unlocked his door (we drove way the fuck away from his house or anywhere he could walk to close by), told him to get the fuck out, and to think about what just happened. He walked away all sad looking, knowing he had a long distance to walk.
Now, this is really weird, because it revolves around weed. Who would steal anothers pipe? It's just wrong, and unfriendly. I don't plan on fighting, i just want that shit back, it was expensive and a really neat gift (best gift i've ever bought anyone). This is pretty far extreme for me to go, i usually wouldn't do this sort of thing. Probably not so good on the karma, heh.
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vivid
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if the kid even admits to stealing it, you did the right thing.. beat the fuck out of people that fuck you over if you can, and if you can't, get enough friends with you until you can beat his ass.
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If he doesn't return it, beat his ass.
If he sells drugs, steal his customers.
If he has animals, poison them.
If he has any property worth any value, destroy it.
Your actions are the karmic reflections upon his theft, so do not hesitate to act.
Just don't get caught.
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Re: extortion [Re: Adden]
#4051416 - 04/13/05 04:43 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Haha, i was expecting a lot different answers than those. This guy has many friends too, and i think it's because he's the only british guy around here. I don't see how anyone would back him up for being a thief and liar about it (he did lie about it the past few days).
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Remember he stole YOUR shit.
Do NOT be afraid to be aggressive about it.
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THE KRAT BARON
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A kind word and a gun go further than a kind word by itself.. If you want your pipe back that bad go right to where he sleeps. Demand your pipe back.
Edited to add: You should get your pipe back plus some interest.
-------------------- m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.
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DNKYD
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Don't bring guns into this. You gave him the opportunity to return the stolen item and he refused. Now is the time to get ugly, just don't bring guns into it.
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LiveByFreedom
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Yeah, i'm definitely getting the pipe back. Lol, i guess he just got home and gave me a call. Told me if i try laying a hand on him, he'll have a bunch of friends beat my ass and that he never wants to see me again. Also said he planned on giving the pipe back tomorrow, which is complete and total bullshit. Man, i could have sworn i graduated highschool a couple years ago, geez. I'll keep posting details..
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Re: extortion [Re: Adden]
#4051507 - 04/13/05 04:57 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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"If he doesn't return it, beat his ass.
If he sells drugs, steal his customers.
If he has animals, poison them.
If he has any property worth any value, destroy it.
Your actions are the karmic reflections upon his theft, so do not hesitate to act.
Just don't get caught. "
Hey ,leave the animals out of it! Im dead serious about it ,since the faulty one was the human animal...You dont even have to hit him...When you were picking him up was the time to act: i would have taken him to the place you took him and then when he exits the car i would pick up a baseball bat i had immobilise him on the car (have friend to hold him,it works even better if friend looks a bit manic its-nothing-for-me-to-bite-your-nose eyes) and argue which kneecap you are going to break first .Make sure you disagree with your friend ,and the more you disagree the more worked up you must appear to be...He would give the pipe.
What i would do in your case :Terrorise him a bit without actuall physical harm. Visit him ,preferably with some attitute and baseball bats Dont hit him,but make sure you appear as if its a minor issue if you crack his head open or break every single bone in his body...
PSychology works nicely
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Re: extortion [Re: Adden]
#4051510 - 04/13/05 04:58 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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s2dope said: Your actions are the karmic reflections upon his theft, so do not hesitate to act.
they are also the karmic reflection of yourself.
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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: extortion [Re: DNKYD]
#4051521 - 04/13/05 05:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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I never recommended shooting him.. That's not the case at all. But if it was somthing of value to me and somebody took it in theory I might go to their house. I might walk inside with no warning and shit I might just put a gun to his fucking head and demand my shit back. If he doesnt want to comply I would tie him up and get it myself. I would then untie him tell him to have a nice day and leave peacefully.
The baseball bat idea is a good one too. That would definately work. You might just have to bust his fucking knee to get it back.. As long as he doesn't have ties to the British mob then I wouldn't think twice about it.
-------------------- m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.
Edited by mattzdope (04/13/05 05:03 PM)
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DNKYD
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Unless you are 100% ready to use that gun and are 100% ready for the consequences of your actions with said gun, do NOT bring a gun into it. People think "I'm hard because I have this gun. They'll listen to me once they see the gun" I'm sorry but that advice is just stupid.
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I am thinking about going up in his house, but that's a pretty vulnerable spot. I know if someone walked up in my house, i'd have at least 10 things handy to bash their head in with, ya know?
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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: extortion [Re: DNKYD]
#4051538 - 04/13/05 05:04 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok.. I understand what you're saying completely. Maybe he's best off using the baseball bat.
-------------------- m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.
Edited by mattzdope (04/13/05 08:33 PM)
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THE KRAT BARON
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Yeah you always have the advantage on the home field, very true. That's why you come prepared with a couple of buddies and try to get in quickly before he can get to anything.. If you are 100% sure he doesnt have a gun in the house then you should be ok with a couple buddies going a long with you.
Edited to add: Just be very careful. Now that I think more about it keep guns out of this one. It's just a pipe. If you have to go to his house make sure your prepared with a couple buddies and stake the place out before hand. When you get in make sure to explain you are only their for your pipe and you are leaving peacefully when it is returned to you.
-------------------- m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.
Edited by mattzdope (04/13/05 05:08 PM)
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Man, i would not think of using a gun! No way would this guy have a gun either, so it's still a ballgame. So far, all the guys have told me to go for it, extort the pipe back, and all the females have told me i'm cruel for even thinking of beating his ass, especially my girlfriend. LMAO
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one of my friends had a pipe stolen as well, it sux and we have no clue as to who did it. as for your problem, your first mistake was letting him go, but what's done is done. do your best to leave violence out until it must be done, start small: post a classified ad selling something expensive for an unbelievable price, make the contact time VERY late or early, then sign him up for EVERY mailing list you can find, anonymous call to the taxman, super glue in his locks (doors and/or car). then if that doesn't work then grab the bat and a few of your biggest friends.
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Edited by batou (04/13/05 05:28 PM)
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Re: extortion [Re: batou]
#4051820 - 04/13/05 06:32 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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My pipe got stolen a while ago, too. It was really nice and I paid $60 for it.
FUCK YOU Officer McCarthy!
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Your all so big and bad. "I would walk up in there..."
yank. yank.
Forgive and Forget. He will probably give it back with just a simple question after that driving stunt you pulled on him. Ask him nicely.
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Psiloman
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Im not big nor bad.But i know how to get stuff that is rightfully mine without harming someones body but scaring him
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Re: extortion [Re: DNKYD]
#4052067 - 04/13/05 07:55 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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DNKYD said: Unless you are 100% ready to use that gun and are 100% ready for the consequences of your actions with said gun, do NOT bring a gun into it. People think "I'm hard because I have this gun. They'll listen to me once they see the gun" I'm sorry but that advice is just stupid.
This is also the reason that gun related deaths are so common in the US.
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DNKYD
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Exactly. I was at work a month or two ago and some young black kid asked if we carried 9mm's. I asked why he would want one and he just said "I need a 9, yo". No, kid, you do not need a 9mm. If the time were to come where you actually needed it to protect yourself, you wouldn't know what to do with it and would probably end up shooting yourself. More likely you would end up harming some innocent person in your attempt to look "hard" and "gangsta" with your "9". Fucking pathetic youth. The ONLY reason you need a gun is for hunting and self defense. Those who want a gun to show some muscle have none, and deserve to have the gun misfire and severely wound them.
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Re: extortion [Re: DNKYD]
#4052116 - 04/13/05 08:07 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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for real.
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jonnywax said: for real.
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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: extortion [Re: DNKYD]
#4052161 - 04/13/05 08:18 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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DNKYD said: Exactly. I was at work a month or two ago and some young black kid asked if we carried 9mm's. I asked why he would want one and he just said "I need a 9, yo". No, kid, you do not need a 9mm. If the time were to come where you actually needed it to protect yourself, you wouldn't know what to do with it and would probably end up shooting yourself. More likely you would end up harming some innocent person in your attempt to look "hard" and "gangsta" with your "9". Fucking pathetic youth. The ONLY reason you need a gun is for hunting and self defense. Those who want a gun to show some muscle have none, and deserve to have the gun misfire and severely wound them.
In some areas,cultures, and line of business there is no other resolve other than the gun.. If you don't have one your enemy might. I don't condone going out and flashing a gun to show ""muscle"" but in some instances it is indeed necessary. I for one would rather have a gun than not have one especially in this fucked up society. That same black kid you speak of probably did get a 9mm beretta elsewhere and is out there jacking people left and right. When the day comes where that black kid comes to jack me Id rather be prepared and not a sitting duck per say..
If somebody keeps coming and stealing your valuables or fucking with your business (how you put food on the table) and you know they have a gun are you going to go and flex your muscles at them in hopes to scare them off? I think not.
The title of this thread is "extortion".. As you have already wandered off topic let me ask you a question. Do you know ANYTHING about true extortion?
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Quote:
mattzdope said: In some areas,cultures, and line of business there is no other resolve other than the gun.. If you don't have one your enemy might. I don't condone going out and flashing a gun to show ""muscle"" but in some instances it is indeed necessary. I for one would rather have a gun than not have one especially in this fucked up society. That same black kid you speak of probably did get a 9mm beretta elsewhere and is out there jacking people left and right. When the day comes where that black kid comes to jack me Id rather be prepared and not a sitting duck per say..
If somebody keeps coming and stealing your valuables or fucking with your business (how you put food on the table) and you know they have a gun are you going to go and flex your muscles at them in hopes to scare them off? I think not.
Thankfully I live in a community where these are not problems. I live in a community where I am proud to pay taxes and see that my streets are safe, and kids are not running around with guns. I live in a community where people worry more about the weather being nice for golf tomorrow than if somebody is going to bust into their convenience store with a handgun ready to steal some cash. I live in a community where immature acts of gun violence are very, very few and far between.
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THE KRAT BARON
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Re: extortion [Re: DNKYD]
#4052202 - 04/13/05 08:31 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thankfully I live in a community where these are not problems. I live in a community where I am proud to pay taxes and see that my streets are safe, and kids are not running around with guns. I live in a community where people worry more about the weather being nice for golf tomorrow than if somebody is going to bust into their convenience store with a handgun ready to steal some cash. I live in a community where immature acts of gun violence are very, very few and far between.
I can respect that as I live in a nice small town myself. However I come from a place that was not so nice and understand why guns are sometimes very necessary.. I don't agree with the tizzuns running around "capping" eachother over nonsense I find this ridiculous and sometimes find their ignorance humorous..
Some very respected peoples in different lines of business that you know nothing about have a necessity to have a gun or many guns for protection and other purposes. These people are not kids nor are they monkeys running around "capping" innocent people and children.. Anybody who lives by the gun and in that line of business are fully aware of what they are doing and of the reprocussions that can be and sometimes are involved.. Whatever puts food on the table you know?
-------------------- m00nshine is currently vacationing in Maui. Rumor has it he got rolled by drunken natives and is currently prostituting himself in order to pay for airfare back to the mainland but he's having trouble juggling a hairon addiction. He won't be back for a long while.
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So, i called this fucker today, to see if he made his decision. Apparently he wants me dead, and he doesn't even know my real name. He was screaming into the phone, and i asked him honestly if he'd rather have the pipe, or a broken kneecap. Then he said i just gave him a death threat and that he'd call the cops on me, lmao. I told him that if i didn't have the pipe in hand by tonight, he better say goodbye to one of his kneecaps. If i don't have the pipe by tonight, i'm beating the absolute shit out of him and then going into his room and trashing it until i get all of his glassware (hookah, steamroller and the pipe).
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Keep on keepin on!
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Re: extortion [Re: DNKYD]
#4062380 - 04/16/05 12:39 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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The guy gave my friend his pipe back today and tried apologizing, i wasn't there, or else i would have bloodied his face. Glad i didn't have to resort to any real violence, only the scare i gave him in the car and dropping him off in the middle of nowhere. If i see him again, i'll be sure to knock him out..
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Hooray for mafiose intimidation!
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Burke Dennings
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Nice way to work this out. I'm sure your friend is very appreciative.
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Way to go. I like your method of getting it back, by tricking him to take a dope smoking ride with you. I don't think i would have come up with that, i would have just beat his ass. A word to the wise though, don't use a gun unless youre ready to pull the trigger (definitely not over a pipe). If somebody puts a gun in my face and i dont think hes gonna use it, Im gonna try to take it from him, cause i am pretty damn quick. Then ill be the one shooting somebody.
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You should've just called the cops and told them that this guy stole a $150 pipe (for tobacco use only), and you want it back.
The cops handle everything.
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Burke Dennings
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I doubt there was much tobacco residue in the pipe.
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faslimy
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this thread is one of the reasons i am antisocial
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Burke Dennings
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Re: extortion [Re: faslimy]
#4063659 - 04/16/05 09:35 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't want your pipes stolen?
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faslimy
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that and most people are shitty, selfish, ignorant and abusive people
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Burke Dennings
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Re: extortion [Re: faslimy]
#4063703 - 04/16/05 09:48 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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...Who will take your pipes, given the chance.
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Yet, they will smoke it with you....
That is the kind of people that will steal your shit and then help you look for it.
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Re: extortion [Re: Adden]
#4063868 - 04/16/05 10:34 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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s2dope said: If he doesn't return it, beat his ass.
If he sells drugs, steal his customers.
If he has animals, poison them.
If he has any property worth any value, destroy it.
Just don't get caught.
My take on karma: If someone fucks you over; return it ten-fold.
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fufungi
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Re: extortion [Re: fufungi]
#4063871 - 04/16/05 10:35 PM (18 years, 11 months ago) |
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but I have major unresolved issues, so don't listen to me.
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