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Experimental substrate smells gnarly
    #4050940 - 04/13/05 04:42 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hi there, how are you? You look great. Just for the hell of it, I mixed some experimental substrate at 2 a.m. a little while back. The substrate is 1/2 Brown Rice Flour and 1/2 All-Purpose Baking Mix (Wheat Gluten, Whole Grain Oat Flour, Oat Bran, Oat Fiber, Flaxseed Meal, Whole Grain Rye Flour, Wheat Bran, Whole Grain Soy Flour).

I did this because the ingredients in the all-purpose baking mix looked appealling, and it has loads of protein. My jars have begun colonizing, albeit rather slowly. And here's the rub: They smell awful. I'm seeing no signs of contamination, which is why I haven't thrown them out all ready. What should I do?

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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: Land_Crab]
    #4050972 - 04/13/05 04:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

let em rip i guess


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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4050988 - 04/13/05 04:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

is this all-purpose stuff commerical? you can't use commerical shit, cause 99% of it contains fungicides. only use organic stuff, and if it is organic, it will say it on the package. Btw, "natural" is not necessarily organic.

so you mixed flour and baking mix (floury consitentcy im guessing) together? is your substrate a big bowl of wet slime then? where the hell is the structural stuff like vermiculite?


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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: Abermelin]
    #4051887 - 04/13/05 09:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It doesn't look like the baking flour is organic. Yes, of course I included vermiculite.

I think I'm gonna toss it; the smell is just making me too uncomfortable, and it was just an experiment, anyways. Also, the mix may contain too much protein, since it has like 8 times as much as the BRF.


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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: Land_Crab]
    #4051895 - 04/13/05 09:04 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

neg, do not toss that jar! If there is any indication of colonization with no sign of contams, do not toss it. My jars smelled GOD AWFUL the first day they showed growth, but i took off then tape, fanned them a little in the box, then maintained heat and left them. They are almost fully colonized now and have no odor whatsoever anymore, except maybe som shroom smells. Just keep them for experimentations sake.


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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: jamsandwich]
    #4051902 - 04/13/05 09:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Shit, you're right. Why not? I'm keeping the jars in large ziplock bags anyways, just to be on the safe side of cross-contamination with my other jars.


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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: jamsandwich]
    #4051915 - 04/13/05 09:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

if your cakes get contaminated during the colonization process, reguardless of whether they fight it and win or not, the mushrooms have a much higher chance of being unsafe to eat. Thats why its so damn important to avoid any chance of contams.

"all-purpose" is usually a sign of there being fungicides and other unhealthy shit in there.


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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: Abermelin]
    #4051927 - 04/13/05 09:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

see if it gets better. dont forget to open the bags every now and then for air exchange.


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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: Abermelin]
    #4051939 - 04/13/05 09:14 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well, my conclusion is that I will toss the jars at the first signs of contamination. If the jars colonize successfully, that will indicate that there aren't/aren't enough fungicides in the product to inhibit growth of this particular fungus, and I will fruit them.


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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: Land_Crab]
    #4051954 - 04/13/05 09:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

when you fruit these, let me know how it went.


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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: jamsandwich]
    #4051960 - 04/13/05 09:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Experimental substrate smells gnarly [Re: Abermelin]
    #4051970 - 04/13/05 09:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Abermelin said:
"all-purpose" is usually a sign of there being fungicides and other unhealthy shit in there.




all purpose in a baking mix means that a leavening agent was added, most all
purpose flour contains baking soda as opposed to yeast as it's leavening agent.


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