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Cleaning jars after use
    #4047494 - 04/12/05 09:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

After i've used my half pint jars for a grow, how can i clean them before I use them for my next grow?


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: NextKind]
    #4047510 - 04/12/05 09:35 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Few things:
Soak in a mild bleach bath, to ensure everything is dead
Rinse well.
Shove em in a dishwasher with some soap.

Problem solved, but be aware lids will rust.
Good thing they're cheap.

Contaminated jars follow a pretty similiar method, altho you'll want a stronger bleach solution, and you'll also want to open them in that solution, to ensure that the contaminant doesn't spread spores everywhere. In the case of contamination by fungal sources, leave em in there overnight, to make sure everything is dead.


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: NextKind]
    #4047513 - 04/12/05 09:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

By hand or dishwasher. You don't need to sterilize them or anything, just get the old visible junk out of the jars.


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: Holydiver]
    #4047523 - 04/12/05 09:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

if the jars are contaminated you should probably toss them...after reading about mycotoxicosis i'm pretty much swayed into tossing contammed jars and only cleaning jars that didn't get contammed.


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: TODAY]
    #4047542 - 04/12/05 09:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Bleach kills everything, even endospores.
A good strong bleach soak will salvage any jar.


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: TODAY]
    #4047553 - 04/12/05 09:49 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

its glass people. chill. go with diver on this one. just PC your jars once before you stick the substrate in if your really that paranoid. Glass cannot house contams, especially with the use of a PC.


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: Abermelin]
    #4047594 - 04/12/05 10:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Endospores, if deposited on glass, will survive pressure cooking.
Witness cracked corn problems with bacterial contamination after attempted sterilization.
In order to be 100% sure, the spores HAVE to be deactivated/killed, and bleach is an effective, widely availible, cheap agent to do so.


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #4047653 - 04/12/05 10:16 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i only wash with soap the jars that were contamed. As for the rest i just rinse them, some seed is left int he jars but it just gets cooked and reused by the next mycelium. Bleach, dishwasher, all that shit is overkill


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: tahoe]
    #4047667 - 04/12/05 10:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Bleach, dishwasher, all that shit is overkill





Agreed, but there's no such thing as being too clean.


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: tahoe]
    #4047672 - 04/12/05 10:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

man, if you've seen and read up on some of the types of contams i've seen, you'd realize surity is a priceless commodity.
Some contams will KILL YOU.
Maybe not the bacterial ones, but some of the fungal types......


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: NextKind]
    #4047675 - 04/12/05 10:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

how can i clean them before I use them for my next grow

Stick 'em in the dishwasher. They'll come out nearly sterile and ready for use.


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: tahoe]
    #4047682 - 04/12/05 10:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

what if i PC'd with bleach? lol


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: Abermelin]
    #4047690 - 04/12/05 10:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If you put the lids in there, they'd probably corrode to total shit :smile:


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: Abermelin]
    #4047693 - 04/12/05 10:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Abermelin said:
what if i PC'd with bleach? lol



i know you were joking but the bleach degrades at a low temp i thinik around 150


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: dog]
    #4047715 - 04/12/05 10:32 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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dog said:

Quote:

Bleach, dishwasher, all that shit is overkill





Agreed, but there's no such thing as being too clean.




I use a mild bleachy water to wash all my jars and lids...then run them through the dishwasher.

I like being too clean!~

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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: tahoe]
    #4047760 - 04/12/05 10:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

So do I put the jar lids in the bleach solution also?


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #4047816 - 04/12/05 10:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Scaring people into thinking they need to take all these extra steps with bleach and what not doesn't make sense to me :thumbdown:


Edited by Diver (04/12/05 11:10 PM)


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: Holydiver]
    #4047846 - 04/12/05 11:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Apologies, i only meant to share what i had learned about contamination and endospores with people.

I have had some problems in the past with recurring infections of previously contaminated jars with the same type of contaminant, in which the only vector of contamination was endosprores.

Pressure cooking will not deactivate endospores. That is fact. They are designed to survive through extremely harsh conditions, and will survive pressure cooking for extended periods of time such as are found in sterilization of substrate....once gain, look into common bacillus spp. that are found in endospore form in many types of grain, most notably corn.
I can provide numerous reference articles/pages if you'd like.


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #4047862 - 04/12/05 11:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

psilocybe spores were designed to travel through space and withstand the extreme heat of re-entry into our atmosphere.


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Re: Cleaning jars after use [Re: Randolph_Carter]
    #4047863 - 04/12/05 11:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok fair enough, edited and removed most of my last post.

That may be, but I've never personally experienced that, interesting that you have though.

I'd definitely like any articles if you have them.


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