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Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared.
    #4047267 - 04/12/05 06:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I'm setting up a new incubator. I've always used the TIT method, which I found works good once you work out the bugs. But I'm considering using a seedling heat mat instead this time. I'm going for more stealth, and think the heat mat might be better for this, and less to worry about with the water and what not.

What are your opinions on these two methods for achieving the proper heat for your incubation chamber? The pros and cons of each.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4047287 - 04/12/05 06:28 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.petstreetmall.com/beds.aspx?id=3792&cat=697

heard about these being used befor dont know what model or any thing


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: onetime]
    #4047300 - 04/12/05 06:33 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I don't see a heating pad distributing heat quite as uniformly as a TiT.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: onetime]
    #4047306 - 04/12/05 06:34 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

If I used a heat mat it would probably be this.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: Holydiver]
    #4047319 - 04/12/05 06:39 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Diver said:
I don't see a heating pad distributing heat quite as uniformly as a TiT.



This seems to be one of the biggest advantages of TIT over a heat mat. I may have to set it up this way again, if I want the best even heating...


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4047329 - 04/12/05 06:41 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, thing about a TiT is the enclosed tub w/ lid captures a lot of the otherwise lost heat.

Heating pad = jars sitting in the middle of nowhere. Unless you put them on a rack or something, and inside a box from there. Still, my experience with heating pads and incubating things has never been so great. Bottoms of jars cook, tops are cold. Sucky.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: Holydiver]
    #4047491 - 04/12/05 07:30 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks Diver, I'm now revising my plans.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4047551 - 04/12/05 07:47 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

what about just sticking a heating mat inside the container the jars are in without the mat touching the jars? i think that might work better than a TiT. my problem with the TiT is that to do it, you would need a big bulky water chamber to house your incubation chamber. not very practicable where stealth is a must.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: Abermelin]
    #4047571 - 04/12/05 07:54 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You could use the pickle jar method like I do. Put your fish heater in a gallon pickle jar full of water. Rig a hole in the jar lid for the cord and apply duct tape liberally hehe. Then put the pickle jar heater inside an icechest. Once you dial in to the right setting on the heater, it maintains an extremely even temperature. It stays nice and dark too. One pickle jar heater can heat any size icechest too. I have 2 icechests running atm(1 for cackes, 1 for grains), and both are big enough to hold 184 cans of beer, according to the label hehe. It's 4ft. long x 1ft. wide x 1.5ft. tall, and my heater is not even set on half. Not sure how stealth an icechest sitting in front of a power plug is tho.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: Abermelin]
    #4047586 - 04/12/05 07:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Well I want the best even heat distribution first, and then best stealth second. I really hate using the TiT, but I do know it works well. If there are any better ways to get even heat more stealthily, I'm all ears.

Abermelin,
Can you clarify your suggestion? Do you mean have the heat mat in the container, and then have the jars/casings sitting on a screen or something just above them?


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4047608 - 04/12/05 08:07 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

yeah, basically. like stick the mat on the bottom, the get a little cookie rack and stack your jars on top of that. that should keep a steady temp within the box. what temp that is i have no idea.

my room sits at a steady 80F, so its kinda a moot point for me to build a incubation chamber. on top of that, the jars add a few degrees from their own heat production, so always remember to substract 2-6F ( this is a guess of course ) from the ideal 86F temp when measuring ambient temps. If your using poo, the internal temperatures can be as much as 10-20 degrees hotter than the ambient air.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4048144 - 04/12/05 10:52 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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You could use the pickle jar method like I do.  Put your fish heater in a gallon pickle jar full of water.  Rig a hole in the jar lid for the cord and apply duct tape liberally hehe.  Then put the pickle jar heater inside an icechest.  Once you dial in to the right setting on the heater, it maintains an extremely even temperature.  It stays nice and dark too.  One pickle jar heater can heat any size icechest too.  I have 2 icechests running atm(1 for cackes, 1 for grains), and both are big enough to hold 184 cans of beer, according to the label hehe.  It's 4ft. long x 1ft. wide x 1.5ft. tall, and my heater is not even set on half.  Not sure how stealth an icechest sitting in front of a power plug is tho.



That sounds like a good idea also. So the jar just sits in the icebox, and manages to heat the whole thing to the same temp?
I'll be doing all my work in one large closet, so an ice-chest may look more suspicious than a plastic tote(which could just be storing junk).

Thanks for all the ideas and help so far guys, greatly appreciated. :thumbup:


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4048341 - 04/12/05 11:42 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

From what I'm seeing I'd stick with the tit. Remember if ya want to make the tit even better put a water pump next to the heater to mix up the water. That way it's equil heat from all sides.

Fuckit here is my tit post.

Incubator set up.

1. First thing get your bottom tub and put in your heater. I also add a water pump to mix the water that way it heats up much more evenly but it isn?t a necessary item. I got the tape from a boat shop and it has been working for some time. Good stuff for underwater.

2. Next put something (I used tall half pints) in each corner of the tub. This will keep the heater and pump safe from being smashed if I put in to many jars or do something stupid.

3. Now be sure to set the heater before you put on the top tub. I attach the top tub with zip ties cause the top tub will want to float.

4. Add the water. I like to add as much water as I can before it starts to spill out.

5. If you use the heaters with the external controls set them now to get ready for the jars. Mine use a dial and a sensor that gives the temp inside the chamber rather then the water. It also has a metal bulb rather then a glass one.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: Magash]
    #4048386 - 04/12/05 11:51 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Sporeworks got a new product in...i think i might pick one up.

Seedling Heat Mat - Incubator Heat Pad
9" x 19.5" -17 watt Seedling Heat Mat. Used to germinated seeds, but works great as a mushroom spawn incubator heat pad. Raises temperatures 10-20deg above ambient. Use in conjunction with the Electronic Thermostat Controller for prescise temperature control in an enclosed space such as a small insulated cooler. Inexpensive way to incubate your spawn.

http://sporeworks.com/supplies.html


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: kronnyQ]
    #4049023 - 04/13/05 03:29 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks Magash, great post!
I like the way you set that up, one thing I did before was use a shorter tote for the inside container, then the lid can be put on the external container trapping more heat. A bag of some sort can be used to seal off the water between the internal and the external containers, this keeps you from having to add water when it evaporates. The top of a bottle or something can be patched into the bag so you can add water etc if needed.

kronnyQ,
Yeah, that's what spurred me to have the idea to use a heat pad.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4049318 - 04/13/05 06:32 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

With a mat you do need the (usually expensive) digital thermostat to work it properly. I just fried some spores with a 15W heater the other day. You need a buffer between the mat and jars, like a folded towel or a bunch of old t-shirts. I used to use a dimmer switch with another old heat pad which took a while to adjust as a tiny change would take hours to realise. Also if your room temp changes during the day the dimmer option is not much use.

So the mat will work but you need a thermostat. I have a broken aquarium heater which I am going to try and modify so its magnetic thermostat can still be used


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: blackout]
    #4049333 - 04/13/05 06:38 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

If you really want to do it cheap stick a 60W light bulb with a dimmer switch in a biscuit tin and put the jars on top on of the lid with a towel thrown over them. the air in the tin serves as a good buffer.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: blackout]
    #4049343 - 04/13/05 06:39 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

if you already have a tit. i would consentrate your efforts on hiding the tit. Rather then useing a heat matt, very un uniform heat not to mention that direct contact with the matt will dry that area of the substrate. try converting a closet or a up-right cubord to house it in........Remember, you wont give a shit about stealth if 8 out of 10 jars go bad......good luck


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: miker311]
    #4049351 - 04/13/05 06:42 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

in order to complete magash's tit post,
here's one in action:

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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: ohmatic]
    #4049615 - 04/13/05 08:59 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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that direct contact with the matt will dry that area of the substrate




thats why you put a cookie rack above the heat mat, so they dont dry the jars out.

damn magash, thats a huge setup. you got a meth lab in the other room too?

TiT (depending on container size) = small area for jars OR not covert


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: Abermelin]
    #4051033 - 04/13/05 03:05 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I don't have a TiT setup yet, I had one before, but I gave my equipment to a friend when I moved. I think it may be more stealth if I don't put a ventilation hole with polyfil in the top this time, using a shorter container inside so you can put the lid on the outside container does allow for more stealth. It just needs to look like any old tote storing junk in your closet.

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I'm putting some extra cash I've been making into this project to have a more advanced setup, price is not a major concern.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4051295 - 04/13/05 04:12 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, the pickle jar just sits in the icechest. Once I got the right setting, it maintains an even 82degrees. My cake incubator holds over 140 half pint jars, and my wbs incubator holds around 50 quart jars.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4052628 - 04/13/05 10:41 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Underhillmaster,
I really like your ice-chest idea too, do you think you could post pictures of it?

I'm looking to be able to incubate 8-16 quart jars, and 24 half pint jars. I only plan on having one incubator, and two fruiting chambers.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4052816 - 04/13/05 11:49 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Here is a water cooler incubator. It keeps a constant temperature, as well as maintaining a certain level of stealth, as long as you conceal the power cord coming from under the lid. I use it as a night stand, hehe.




Fish tank heater, glass jar, duct tape, cooler.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: chunder]
    #4053064 - 04/14/05 12:59 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the pictures Chunder. I don't have a digital camera, but sure wish I did. The pickle jar will heat any size icechest too. I put a wad of polyfil in the drain plug part for minimal air exchange, and it runs at about room humidity.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4053466 - 04/14/05 04:24 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Does the cooler still seal when there's a power cord running out of it?

It would be cool if you could run the power cords out through the drain plug for max stealth. As an incubator or fruiting chamber.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4053486 - 04/14/05 04:48 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You can drill a hole, take the plug off, feed the cord through and silicon up the hole, for a perfect seal


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: blackout]
    #4055813 - 04/14/05 05:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

i am trying to do something similar to the red chest, have a colman a little bigger than that, would it be wiser to leave a 50watt fishtank heater to heat from 3 - 12 jars(for now >=-) ) , but i was thinking about an idea, i could reduce air volume by blowing up some ~1-2 gallon resealable bags (yknow liek ziplock but any brand will work) i was thinking if people had problems heating a larger volume of air you could negate some with plastic bags to keep things sweating.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: indole]
    #4068096 - 04/18/05 08:22 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

update: set up my tit( teheheh ) oh man this setup works very well, I am using an Acura1000(100watt) i set it to 86 and the temp bounces from 83 to 85.8. a nice simple setup. thanks shroomery for this idea(oh noes i thanked all).

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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: indole]
    #4068265 - 04/18/05 10:07 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Magash-

What kind of thermometers are those and where'd you get them?


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: djchowfun]
    #4068328 - 04/18/05 10:40 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I've used plain old heating mats (10-20 bucks) from the pharmacy to bottom-heat plastic containers. Works just fine, as long as you elevate the jars/bulk substrate a bit. Tried some of the more expensive aquarium mats, but they ended up doing exactly the same thing.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: gratefulredhead]
    #4068856 - 04/18/05 02:18 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I have never really seen this mentioned, but has anyone ever used a heating blanket in place of a heating mat/pad? Since heating blankets are designed to be ran many many hours at a time, I would think it would be much less of a fire hazard. Also, the size of the blanket actually opens some possibilities for mass incubation hehe. Any experience/info would be appreciated.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4068893 - 04/18/05 02:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I forget who (I think it was agar, but I'm not sure), but I remember someone pulling out all the wires in an electric blanket and wiring their converted freezer with it... Seemed to work extremely well.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #4068994 - 04/18/05 03:06 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I got so tired of moving things around in my TIT that I did away with it. I used to have a 6'x 8' walk in closet. Now I have a 6'x8' walk in incubator. Own heat source and thermostat. Stays 84 degrees non stop. I love it.
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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: HippieChick]
    #4069066 - 04/18/05 03:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Heat source is the dehydrator on a timer.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4069220 - 04/18/05 03:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Time again to post the incredibly cheap and skanky method. Which I still use,ahem.. at least until recently when the bastard law changed... to pretty good effect.

Shoebox on top of household electrical item that never gets switched off, fridge, TV cable box, dsl router etc.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: Hambo]
    #4071511 - 04/19/05 03:02 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I have used an electric blanket on a timer. For larger grows it is perfect, use extra blankets to buffer the heat. A dimmer switch would be better than a timer or ideally a plug in digital thermostat.
At the moment I have a 15W band heater under a biscuit tin which has a t-shrit in it as a buffer. It is on a timer 15mins on/60mins off and is 23-26C


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: blackout]
    #4071628 - 04/19/05 05:47 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I was looking through walmart today, and checked out a 98 litre ice-chest.
I'm thinking the fish tank heater/jar/ice-chest combo may be the way to go, it will hold a lot too! And stealth enough for my purposes.

Now since the fish tank heater will be in a jar, it probably doesn't have to be that high wattage of a heater does it?

Also if the fish tank heater works to heat the whole ice-chest, I assume a heat mat in an ice-chest would also work well.
The heat would be coming more evenly too, as long as you kept the jars etc buffered from the heat mat.

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NeedMoreSleep said:
pulling out all the wires in an electric blanket and wiring their converted freezer with it... Seemed to work extremely well.



This would also be a great idea for an ice-chest, would allow even heating, and save incubator space.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4071645 - 04/19/05 06:15 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Heat mats create heat directly under whatever you are incubating. If the mat is in CONTACT with whatever that is..... they tend to OVERHEAT it. A grate of some sort to create air space between the two is well advised.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: agar]
    #4072752 - 04/19/05 01:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Aye, since your heater is in a jar you can go with a smaller size heater. I use the 5-15 gallon size heater in mine. One thing I have found out, and it makes sense. The larger volume of water you are able to heat, the lower you can set your temp setting on your heater. I have one incubator with a half-gallon mason jar, and another with a gallon plastic pickle jar. Both use the same heater model, but the setting on the pickle jar is much lower. So, in my opinion, it is worth spending $5+ for the biggest jar you can find even if it has pickles or something in it.

Incubation is all about maintaining an even temperature over time, so however you can do that, should be good.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4073598 - 04/19/05 05:16 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know if I've ever seen a 1 gallon pickle jar, would a quart jar be big enough, or is a large jar vital to distribute the heat more efficiently?


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4074179 - 04/19/05 07:44 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

My fish heater is like 8+ inches tall so I had to get a jar/container that tall or taller. I found mine at Wal-Mart. Maybe try a wholesale grocery store.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4075210 - 04/19/05 11:34 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, but do you think a quart jar could do the job if the heater fits?
The heater I plan to use is about 7-8" long, but it wouldn't all have to fit in the jar,
some could stick out the top and be sealed to the lid with some silicone or something.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4076371 - 04/20/05 09:47 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

i believe i saw 3 watts per gallon for +/- 7 degree changes

:read on box for recomending heaters for aquariums

heater in jar in cooler might take some tweaking seeing how the warm jar is heating the air. i dunno. :shrug:


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: indole]
    #4077542 - 04/20/05 03:05 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

My friend doesnt use a TiT. In fact, untill just recently, he didnt even know what it stood for.

What he uses is a Sunbeam Heat pad, set over his small Rubbermaid tub, which is inside the bottom cabnet of a nightstand, so i guess it could be a version of a TiT, but it has no water in it at all. Its on its lowest setting and it reaches temps of about 80 deg f, perfect for incubating. If I wanted, it has 5 diff settings I beleive. Thing cost about $30, so I guess it was a pretty good deal. Also, He's never had any problems with heat distrobution either. It heats pretty evenly if you have the mat lying on top of the closed tub, inside the cabnet.


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