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OfflineJaguarWarrior101
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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: Abermelin]
    #4051033 - 04/13/05 03:05 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I don't have a TiT setup yet, I had one before, but I gave my equipment to a friend when I moved. I think it may be more stealth if I don't put a ventilation hole with polyfil in the top this time, using a shorter container inside so you can put the lid on the outside container does allow for more stealth. It just needs to look like any old tote storing junk in your closet.

Blackout,
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1)Efficiency & Functionality
2)Stealth
3)Cost
I'm putting some extra cash I've been making into this project to have a more advanced setup, price is not a major concern.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4051295 - 04/13/05 04:12 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, the pickle jar just sits in the icechest. Once I got the right setting, it maintains an even 82degrees. My cake incubator holds over 140 half pint jars, and my wbs incubator holds around 50 quart jars.


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Re: Incubators, Heat Mat vs Tub In Tub(TIT) [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4052628 - 04/13/05 10:41 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Underhillmaster,
I really like your ice-chest idea too, do you think you could post pictures of it?

I'm looking to be able to incubate 8-16 quart jars, and 24 half pint jars. I only plan on having one incubator, and two fruiting chambers.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4052816 - 04/13/05 11:49 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Here is a water cooler incubator. It keeps a constant temperature, as well as maintaining a certain level of stealth, as long as you conceal the power cord coming from under the lid. I use it as a night stand, hehe.




Fish tank heater, glass jar, duct tape, cooler.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: chunder]
    #4053064 - 04/14/05 12:59 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for the pictures Chunder. I don't have a digital camera, but sure wish I did. The pickle jar will heat any size icechest too. I put a wad of polyfil in the drain plug part for minimal air exchange, and it runs at about room humidity.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4053466 - 04/14/05 04:24 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Does the cooler still seal when there's a power cord running out of it?

It would be cool if you could run the power cords out through the drain plug for max stealth. As an incubator or fruiting chamber.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4053486 - 04/14/05 04:48 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

You can drill a hole, take the plug off, feed the cord through and silicon up the hole, for a perfect seal


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: blackout]
    #4055813 - 04/14/05 05:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

i am trying to do something similar to the red chest, have a colman a little bigger than that, would it be wiser to leave a 50watt fishtank heater to heat from 3 - 12 jars(for now >=-) ) , but i was thinking about an idea, i could reduce air volume by blowing up some ~1-2 gallon resealable bags (yknow liek ziplock but any brand will work) i was thinking if people had problems heating a larger volume of air you could negate some with plastic bags to keep things sweating.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: indole]
    #4068096 - 04/18/05 08:22 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

update: set up my tit( teheheh ) oh man this setup works very well, I am using an Acura1000(100watt) i set it to 86 and the temp bounces from 83 to 85.8. a nice simple setup. thanks shroomery for this idea(oh noes i thanked all).

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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: indole]
    #4068265 - 04/18/05 10:07 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Magash-

What kind of thermometers are those and where'd you get them?


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: djchowfun]
    #4068328 - 04/18/05 10:40 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I've used plain old heating mats (10-20 bucks) from the pharmacy to bottom-heat plastic containers. Works just fine, as long as you elevate the jars/bulk substrate a bit. Tried some of the more expensive aquarium mats, but they ended up doing exactly the same thing.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: gratefulredhead]
    #4068856 - 04/18/05 02:18 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I have never really seen this mentioned, but has anyone ever used a heating blanket in place of a heating mat/pad? Since heating blankets are designed to be ran many many hours at a time, I would think it would be much less of a fire hazard. Also, the size of the blanket actually opens some possibilities for mass incubation hehe. Any experience/info would be appreciated.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: Underhillmaster]
    #4068893 - 04/18/05 02:32 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I forget who (I think it was agar, but I'm not sure), but I remember someone pulling out all the wires in an electric blanket and wiring their converted freezer with it... Seemed to work extremely well.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #4068994 - 04/18/05 03:06 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I got so tired of moving things around in my TIT that I did away with it. I used to have a 6'x 8' walk in closet. Now I have a 6'x8' walk in incubator. Own heat source and thermostat. Stays 84 degrees non stop. I love it.
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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: HippieChick]
    #4069066 - 04/18/05 03:21 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Old:


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Heat source is the dehydrator on a timer.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: scatmanrav]
    #4069220 - 04/18/05 03:59 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Time again to post the incredibly cheap and skanky method. Which I still use,ahem.. at least until recently when the bastard law changed... to pretty good effect.

Shoebox on top of household electrical item that never gets switched off, fridge, TV cable box, dsl router etc.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: Hambo]
    #4071511 - 04/19/05 03:02 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I have used an electric blanket on a timer. For larger grows it is perfect, use extra blankets to buffer the heat. A dimmer switch would be better than a timer or ideally a plug in digital thermostat.
At the moment I have a 15W band heater under a biscuit tin which has a t-shrit in it as a buffer. It is on a timer 15mins on/60mins off and is 23-26C


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: blackout]
    #4071628 - 04/19/05 05:47 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I was looking through walmart today, and checked out a 98 litre ice-chest.
I'm thinking the fish tank heater/jar/ice-chest combo may be the way to go, it will hold a lot too! And stealth enough for my purposes.

Now since the fish tank heater will be in a jar, it probably doesn't have to be that high wattage of a heater does it?

Also if the fish tank heater works to heat the whole ice-chest, I assume a heat mat in an ice-chest would also work well.
The heat would be coming more evenly too, as long as you kept the jars etc buffered from the heat mat.

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NeedMoreSleep said:
pulling out all the wires in an electric blanket and wiring their converted freezer with it... Seemed to work extremely well.



This would also be a great idea for an ice-chest, would allow even heating, and save incubator space.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: JaguarWarrior101]
    #4071645 - 04/19/05 06:15 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Heat mats create heat directly under whatever you are incubating. If the mat is in CONTACT with whatever that is..... they tend to OVERHEAT it. A grate of some sort to create air space between the two is well advised.


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Re: Incubators - Heat Mat, Tub In Tub(TIT), and other heating methods compared. [Re: agar]
    #4072752 - 04/19/05 01:04 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Aye, since your heater is in a jar you can go with a smaller size heater. I use the 5-15 gallon size heater in mine. One thing I have found out, and it makes sense. The larger volume of water you are able to heat, the lower you can set your temp setting on your heater. I have one incubator with a half-gallon mason jar, and another with a gallon plastic pickle jar. Both use the same heater model, but the setting on the pickle jar is much lower. So, in my opinion, it is worth spending $5+ for the biggest jar you can find even if it has pickles or something in it.

Incubation is all about maintaining an even temperature over time, so however you can do that, should be good.


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