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Casing VS Cakes Potency
    #4046937 - 04/12/05 06:44 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I grew a bunch of mushrooms out of BRF cakes. They were unfortunately very very weak. The strain is Puerto Rican. When I posted about their weak potency, a lot of people said thats sometimes what you get when you grow with cakes. I am now doing a casing with the rest of my BRF cakes. For the top layer I used a combo of verm, coco coir, and oyster shells. Will the potency be better? I figure that since the substrate is the same, that the potency will remain the same. But hopefully I am wrong? Please tell me I am wrong. That they will be much stronger. Or at least lie to me and tell me that.


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: ralphie]
    #4046950 - 04/12/05 06:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

its hard to tell i would go bulk it isnt that hard and your shrooms will be very potent,it is because all of the nutes in poo,cakes no longer do it for me,and there is no since in crumbleling a cake and caseing it in my opinion it the same just more.


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: ralphie]
    #4046951 - 04/12/05 06:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

verm , cocco and oyster shells aka 60/40, or any casing mix dosent contain nutrients which increase your potency. switch to grains like rye to see more potent mushies. also spawn to poo for some that will knock yer socks off. hope that helps. so yea crubling cakes en casing them wont give you more potent ones, just more surface are to grow them on.


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: ethnomycolofreak]
    #4046997 - 04/12/05 07:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Should i go with WBS or Rye?


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: scrname]
    #4047000 - 04/12/05 07:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

or popcorn?


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: p4kSouL]
    #4047013 - 04/12/05 07:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well if doing straight casings, id go with rye. i dont have experince w/ corn. if you were planning on using to spawn to some poo, id go w/ wbs.


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: ethnomycolofreak]
    #4047020 - 04/12/05 07:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

also do a search for magash's rye tek, and scat's way of doin rye. these are the ones ive followed , w/ nothing but sucsess


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: ethnomycolofreak]
    #4047026 - 04/12/05 07:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

link to magash's rye tek. cant find it when i search.


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: scrname]
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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: ethnomycolofreak]
    #4047080 - 04/12/05 07:34 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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ethnomycolofreak said:
well if doing straight casings, id go with rye. i dont have experince w/ corn. if you were planning on using to spawn to some poo, id go w/ wbs.


you can also use cakes to spawn with great success as well!thats what i use,and i use popcorn for outdoor grows.


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: sludge]
    #4047124 - 04/12/05 07:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

yea i got a measly ammoutn fo shrooms from my first grow too it was brf cakes cased with 50/50+ casing mix so now after that experience im going directly to bulk with my own little pf tek variation and i have a feeling once i go bulk there will be no going back plus i got 70 lbs of composted cow manure to spawn !!!


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #4047208 - 04/12/05 08:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

tru i forgot to mention that. thanx sludge. so in that case spawnig cakes to poo would make yer mushies more potent, versus plain cased cakes


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: scrname]
    #4047242 - 04/12/05 08:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

wbs works great. when you want to start thinking about pasturizing straw and/or poo it works even better as a spawn.


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: TODAY]
    #4047294 - 04/12/05 08:30 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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wbs works great.  when you want to start thinking about pasturizing straw and/or poo it works even better as a spawn.


ya but the one thing for newbes when doing wbs is the water content so to be much easier with errors go with cakes till you get the hang of things it seems like you have no prob. with getting cakes to colinize with ease so just spawn that to poo and use a casing of your likeing and dude you will get some massive flushes and all the spawn does is colinize the poo all the nutes are in the poo and mushies love shit lol,sounds gross thou but its true.and in my opinion horse poo is whay better then cow poo by far.good luck just read,read ,read thats all you can do, trial and error :thumbup:


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: sludge]
    #4047351 - 04/12/05 08:52 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

what's easier than:
1. soak wbs for 24 hours.
2. simmer on stove for 20 minutes.
3. rinse and drain.
4. load into jars.
5. pc.

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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: TODAY]
    #4047356 - 04/12/05 08:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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what's easier than:
1. soak wbs for 24 hours.
2. simmer on stove for 20 minutes.
3. rinse and drain.
4. load into jars.
5. pc.

?


whats the #1 reason for failure with wbs?


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: sludge]
    #4047367 - 04/12/05 08:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

...not pcing?


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: TODAY]
    #4047383 - 04/12/05 09:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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...not pcing?


right water content!!!!!!! :crazy2:


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: sludge]
    #4047398 - 04/12/05 09:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

but dude, if you soak for 24 hours (which is very simple) you'll get a water content that works...simmering opens up the grain a little more and makes things work perfectly but even w/ a 12 hour soak you'll get wbs in working order. IMO, using wbs is 10 times easier and cleaner than mixing up brf, verm, and water in appropriate parts.


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Re: Casing VS Cakes Potency [Re: TODAY]
    #4047414 - 04/12/05 09:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ya i know im just saying when you talk to people here they always complain about to much water or there shit molding which i mean from wet rot thats all im saying i dont have probs.with it and im not calling you a lyer or anything like they say diffrent folks/ diffrent strokes, LOL i love that saying.LOL


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