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i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc?
    #4046731 - 04/12/05 05:53 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I have some wbs qt. jars going right now and they appeared to be about 30-40% done colonizing. I was told if i shook them a little they would be done in 3-5 days. Well i shook them today and now they all appear to have little to no myc. on the outside edges? Does the myc. from the outside all go towards the middle and then colonize out and get it done faster? There were some nice large thick chunks of colonized WBS when i shook, but now they are broken up. Should this speed things up considerably?


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: jtk]
    #4046775 - 04/12/05 06:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i need to know the same thing, my mentor had me break up 2 pints of colonized tasmanian WBS with 2 pints uncolonized sterile WBS into a tyvek filtered ziplock, and now they don't look like it's moving along to fast, i might have been better off not trying to mix in the extra uncolonized WBS.... any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: SHROOMpimp]
    #4046835 - 04/12/05 06:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i've never done grain or bulk or any of what you guys are doing. In fact I'm a total newb. But I'm pretty sure that if you just wait a few days that you'll see the myc growing again. The whole point of shaking it would be to spread the myc around the grain so that it starts colonizing throughout the grain, instead of having to start at one point and travel across the jar.

But i've never done any of this, so someone correct me if I'm wrong, or post one of those "STFU nOOb!" pics.


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: SHROOMpimp]
    #4046836 - 04/12/05 06:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

any info.? anyone who shakes their quart WBS at 30-40% should be able to answer this for me.


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: jtk]
    #4046888 - 04/12/05 06:30 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It's totally normal. The grains will recover in a day or two. A fully inflated tire works well to bang the jars against to break up the grains.
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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4046919 - 04/12/05 06:40 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i shake at 20 % but thats just me. def. what rodger said ,1-2 days for growth to start again.they have been beat up a little so they need a day to recover


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: ethnomycolofreak]
    #4047046 - 04/12/05 07:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yea they look bare after u shake b/c it flattens the myc so it doesnt look like as much is there but after it recovers (assuming you aren't constantly shaking the shit out of it) then growth should speed up.


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: bioTek]
    #4047627 - 04/12/05 10:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sometimes they won't recover. Maybe the temps are off or there is contams. You need to wait a few days b4 you come to this conclusion...


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: Juan_del_Pueblo]
    #4047684 - 04/12/05 10:25 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Even a fully colonized jar will look like there is no mycelium in it
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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: tahoe]
    #4047792 - 04/12/05 10:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

You sure there's not a spawn run and a refill in between those shots? :wink:


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: tahoe]
    #4047793 - 04/12/05 10:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i didn't shake the shit out of them. I just shook them hard enough to move the kernals around and i kind of slapped the bottom of the jar w/ my hand to break the myc. chunks off. I didn't really even shake them up and down, just kind of vibrated them quickly to move the colonized chunks around.

Damn tahoe is that really the same jar?


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: jtk]
    #4047856 - 04/12/05 11:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

same jar, I wouldnt lie to you people.
notice the tint of this jar an hour later, notice the white in all the cracks in the seeds. See that bluish stick on top. Its the bluing Bolete. Now look to the top of this page and the top pic in the top right hand corner. Same stick :wink:


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: Juan_del_Pueblo]
    #4047882 - 04/12/05 11:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Juan_del_Pueblo said:

Sometimes they won't recover. Maybe the temps are off or there is contams. You need to wait a few days b4 you come to this conclusion...




Yeah sometimes they don't recover from shaking them.


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #4047924 - 04/12/05 11:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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A fully inflated tire works well to bang the jars against to break up the grains.



Will this work to break up popcorn, 'cause mine is pretty caked together.


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: tahoe]
    #4047932 - 04/12/05 11:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

why is there a stick in your WBS jar?


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: goofy98]
    #4047944 - 04/12/05 11:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

why not, its just added nutes. what a waste of time picking through your seed.


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: tahoe]
    #4047963 - 04/12/05 11:52 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ive just never seen a stick in my seed. Thouht you put it in there on purpose.


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: goofy98]
    #4048017 - 04/13/05 12:03 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

first of all, this is completely normal, second, I get all kinds of sticks and extra crap in the bulk WBS I buy from petco. MYC is VERY seneistive and flufly, so when you shake it, it rubs it all flat, and therefore you cant see it. within a couple days, it will recover and it will durastically improve mycelium distrabution. I have heard opposite, about the tire, to use a deflated tire. I read it in Paul Statments book. build a stand with some 2x4's and that will really save your hands when shaking up your jars, and protect them in the case that a jar breaks, OUCH!!!


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #4048023 - 04/13/05 12:05 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

as long as i didn't shake the crap out of them, i think they should recover fine. I shook them at about 5-10% and they recovered in 1-2 days and it really sped up colonization for the next 3-4 days.


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Re: i shook my jars and now they look bare of myc? [Re: jtk]
    #4051540 - 04/13/05 07:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

damnit its not a stick,


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