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Ya know what I hate?????
    #4044606 - 04/12/05 08:46 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I hate it when I'm tripping and people who have'nt tripped before are all like "Hey man,whats that shit like?"You people need to quit being pussies and try it yourself.
How many of you have a friend or relative who swears they'll never trip again but when it comes time for you to show up with some shrooms they're like"hell yeah man".And then they turn out having a bad trip and start feeling sorry for themselves and start saying something like "why did I do this?"And as if ruining your trip with all their bullshit whining was'nt enough,they swear up and down they'll never trip again?Here's the kicker:You show up again with shrooms and they wanna eat some and you say no and then they get pissed because you won't share.You then explain why you won't share but they stay pissed anyways.Anyone?


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #4044638 - 04/12/05 09:12 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

um. yes.

i totally feel ya man. ive never really put myself in this type of position purely because of your reasons. i can usually get a good read on people if they think its cool or not, if not i dont let them know anything.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #4044697 - 04/12/05 09:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

i kind of know what you mean.

a different but similar situation: once me and my friend bought some shrooms and invited our other friends to trip with us. some did, some didn't. then the ones who didn't came in while we were tripping, which was annoying because i don't like being around non-trippers when i'm tripping. they were all like 'what's it like man?' and stuff. then they got pissed because we didn't want to hang out with them at that time.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: alsey]
    #4044739 - 04/12/05 10:10 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

It fathoms me how people can be so annoying like that.If you don't wanna trip FINE don't trip but don't fucking bother me while I'm enjoying myself.I personally don't have friends like this,but my friends do and I usually trip at a friends house because I have a wife who does'nt do any drugs so I do it away from her and my son.
I actaully had a close friend ask me to leave his home because I went off on this chick who could'nt handle her shit while we were tripping.She was all bitching and whining and crying because she thought she was gonna die.I got there with a sack full of fresh picked shrooms and this was my first time meeting this chick.Right away I could tell how this was gonna turn out.I sat there and put up with her bullshit and even tried to explain to her that she was'nt going to die and that she drank a coffee cup full of tea and that she was going to be fine.She kept up the shenanigans for over 2 hours man,and it was constant.I did'nt wanna leave because I had no where else to go,at least not in the condition my condition was in.So finally I had enough and I was like "Look you stupid fucking bitch,you knew full well what you were doing when I gave you the tea.You're not gonna fucking die so suck it up,get over it and chill the fuck out before I fucking snap.I did'nt come here to listen to you rag about your inability to handle your shit."My friend then tried to play the "compassionate guy friend" and asked me to leave because I was upsetting her more.I knew he was trying to get in her pants so I did'nt say a word,I was a little pissed at him for it,but I just left and went to the casino,played the nickel slots and watched the carpet patterns for 3 hours.

I absolutely cannot stand it when people freak out when the eat shrooms.I try to talk them out of the depression and fear,but I can only take so much.Is it that hard to understand that shrooms are a fucking HALLUCINOGEN?You WILL hallucinate.If you have doubts about what its going to do to you,DON'T FUCKING DO IT!!!If you hear a voice in your head say "Don't do it" you should listen,it's called your conscience,listen to it.

Sorry for ranting.I just wanted to see if anyone else might have experienced the same thing.

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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #4044821 - 04/12/05 10:46 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

dude, a bad trip can be baaaaaad. no matter how stupid someone's initial decision to do psychedelics is, i always have some sympathy for anyone bad-tripping because it can be absolutely terrifying. it still annoys me if someone eats shrooms or something when they've blatantly got the wrong mindset and then bad-trip, but i'll still help them out. i guess i'm too nice :smile:

but then i love that scene in fear and loathing when gonzo eats all the acid and freaks out, and then duke chucks grapefruit at him and locks him in the bathroom. no nonsense :evil:


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: alsey]
    #4044881 - 04/12/05 11:07 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I think I'm pretty helpful to others in that situation,its just that she was talking mega shit pre-trip.Like she can always handle herself and saying how much she loves tripping.It was all just a bunch of nonsense and I finally got fed up and spoke my mind.

I know full well the difference between a good and bad trip because I've had both,but no matter what I always,ALWAYS,keep it to myself.I'll even go to the extent of isolating myself from the group so I don't ruin their good time.I just wish others had the same consideration.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #4045063 - 04/12/05 12:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

"How many of you have a friend or relative who swears they'll never trip again but when it comes time for you to show up with some shrooms they're like"hell yeah man".And then they turn out having a bad trip and start feeling sorry for themselves and start saying something like "why did I do this?"And as if ruining your trip with all their bullshit whining was'nt enough,they swear up and down they'll never trip again?"

LOL! My brother used to be like that! He had pretty bad PTSD from a bad acid trip when he was 14, but since he started doing shrooms he's been learning to enjoy himself a lot more and doesn't freak out so much.

"its just that she was talking mega shit pre-trip.Like she can always handle herself and saying how much she loves tripping"

People who talk shit like that create their own bad trip by puffing up their ego and waving their pride like their nations' banner. Perhaps she did die a little inside, but I bet she'll have a lot more humility now!

I understand where you are comming from, but flaring tempers NEVER make a bad trip better, because now all they can focus on is how they were being yelled at, thus pushing them further into a pit of self-loathing depression and fear.

Tripping is both positive AND negative. If you don't want to have a bad trip, then don't trip at all. Ya wanna feel all good and happy? Eat some extacy because tripping is more than just fun. It's SO fun that it's terrifying!! :whoa:


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #4045112 - 04/12/05 12:31 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I hear you. That is why I have a new appreciation for tripping alone. Difficult portions of a trip are normal, but when a tripper loses control and starts to bring others into their cycle of terror...that can be tricky to navigate. If I am tripping and someone else is having a bad time, I am able to pull myself together and help guide them through, at the expense of ignoring my own trip.

When you trip alone, the only tripper you have to worry about is yourself, which is quite preferable to me.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: MOTH]
    #4045262 - 04/12/05 01:02 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I've talked quite a few people out of bad places when they were somewhere they did'nt wanna be.I guess what I'm getting at is if you have doubts as to whether or not the trip is going to be pleasurable then just don't do it.Take others into consideration.
I like to trip whether its good,great,bad,horrible,or terrifying.I know and understand full well the benefits and consequences.I just wish that others did.
And also you have to understand that I live in a place where most every white boy has this thug mentality and the chicks think its cool and they all think that psychoactives are party drugs.They think they can handle what the shrooms can dish out.Bitch please.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #4046989 - 04/12/05 07:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: dr0mni]
    #4047381 - 04/12/05 09:00 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

If someone asks me how shrooms are, I can give them a basic description, for a smaller trip. I don't get too annoyed with them. I usually tell them they have to experience it themselves to know, especially with acid.

And I've done it myself, where I said while bad tripping I'd never do shrooms again, and sure enough I did them again. I've had rocky comeups, but never bad tripped again. Except maybe just once where I went to a party. All the voices filled up my head and I couldn't hear myself think, I felt like I was going retarded. I left but still felt edgy, not all that bad though.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: dr0mni]
    #4047403 - 04/12/05 09:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Nice rant, when ppl ask what it's like, I tell 'em it's like :sun:

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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: SunshinePounder]
    #4048084 - 04/13/05 12:29 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Most of the time when I get asked what its like,its around that time in the trip where you're in "that place".You know,the place that looks like a trippy art poster.My only description is "it's unexplainable" or it's like "whoa".As far as what I'm physically seeing the best way to describe that is to tell them to put on some 3D glasses,not the blue and red kind,but the kind you'd find at the firework stand.Still that is the most vague description,but its the closest to the actual factual truth I could come up with.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #4049326 - 04/13/05 08:37 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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I did'nt come here to listen to you rag about your inability to handle your shit.




Hahaha. Hit the nail on the head there.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: swiftrance]
    #4049692 - 04/13/05 11:44 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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um. yes.

i totally feel ya man. ive never really put myself in this type of position purely because of your reasons. i can usually get a good read on people if they think its cool or not, if not i dont let them know anything.




its funny you say this, I am pretty much the same way, and I think a lot of trippers are. theres almost a nervous anxiety about these kind of people, an almost feeling of wreckless chaos exerted by their existence...certain people I know I could ahsolutely not handle being around while tripping because they'd probably ruin it, not intentionally of course, but they just don't "know" how meaningful and deep these experiences are. .I think this is why the psychedelic world tends to remain underground (other than the illegality of it) and so many people are astonished when they become apart of the culture...because if you're not with it...you would hardly know it existed.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: kake]
    #4050621 - 04/13/05 03:41 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Right on.In my experience it seems as though psychedelics are more looked down upon than crack,around here anyway.Maybe they're all crackheads who knows.Most people here always buy into those bullshit stories about the friend of a friend who knows a guys cousins bosses ex wifes sisters dogs former owner who tripped once and is now under the delusion that they're a glass of orange juice and is scared of getting tipped over.How dumb can you be to believe something like that?I even heard one about a dude who thought his arm was a roast beef sandwich and he ate his arm off.HELLO???First off,if your tripping you're not hungry.Second,would'nt he feel at least the slightest bit of pain at some point?Fucking dumbasses dude.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #4052401 - 04/13/05 11:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

This one guy told me he knew a guy who OD'd on shrooms and died. I told him that wasn't possible, and that he probably picked deadly shrooms, but he wouldn't hear it.


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #4053446 - 04/14/05 05:48 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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I even heard one about a dude who thought his arm was a roast beef sandwich and he ate his arm off.




ROFL! :lol:


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: alsey]
    #4053654 - 04/14/05 09:05 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I mean come on,get real ppl.I could understand if someone was tripping hard enough to think their arm was a sammich,but to eat it too?I think after the first bite it would be pretty evident that "this is not a sandwich".


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Re: Ya know what I hate????? [Re: Baton_Rouge_Voodoo]
    #4054111 - 04/14/05 12:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

How stupid someone must be to believe that? I don't know, but if a person knows nothing about tripping, many things may seem possible.

And how about that guy who has chopped his tongue AND penis while on datura? I`m recalling a story that include chopping penis and boiling it and eating after wards too, but here I`m not sure if it was datura too. For a regular person it doesn't mean shit weather its datura or mushrooms, the`ll say "on some psychoactive plant" in the newspaper and that's it.

However, you do have point on eating his whole damn arm. That is just too much  :smile:. But a finger or few....    :rolleyes:


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