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The Plan
    #4039669 - 04/11/05 02:45 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

First off a little background - this will be my second grow, the first one was not so successful mainly because i had to do everything covert style, but still i got enough shrooms to trip a couple times.

The plan this time is to mass produce as much of the little shroomies as possible, as i have my own apartment, and the sky is the limit. Any help/suggestions to produce a big yield is appreciated!

I have been reading a lot, and my original plan was to inoculate 20 jars, incubate and colonize using the pf tek, and then crumble and case using the casing 101 tek, hopefully getting 10 baking trays total. Is this a good idea? Any other plans for a bigger yield?

Friday, April 8
Ordered 2 syringes of Brazilian, and 2 of Z strain.
Looked around for verm, as it is rare here, found some at a garden supply shop.

Waiting for syringes to arrive, in the meantime getting supplies together, and deciding what grow tek to use to produce a big enough yield.

Another question i have - i dont have a pc, will i be ok if i just sterilize the jars in a pot with boiling water? thats what i did on my first grow, and it worked ok.

If you guys could tell me what you think about my plan, and maybe suggest doing something totally different to increase yields, thats cool, im open to any and all advice.


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Re: The Plan [Re: Squealer]
    #4039873 - 04/11/05 03:46 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

You could use straw if you have the time. Then you'd get big yields. SInce its your second time though you might want to take it easy and just go with a standard casing or do half standard and 10 straw cased play around with it.


buy a pressure cooker. its less than 50 dollars at walmart and will save you from contams.

You could use Wild bird seed i just started playing with it and like it much better.

You should use spawn bags if you are willing to buy a pressure cooker. Save you from buying 20 jars. Plus if you are casing its just easier. If you decide to take this route PM i will tell you hoe to make your own for pretty cheap.

also dont tell your friends about your grow because thats just a big headache.

do you have a place to keep your pans in that is temperature controled for fruiting/incubating 76f/86f


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Re: The Plan [Re: xburn]
    #4040108 - 04/11/05 09:09 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I would deffinatly go bulk.
For a second grow may i suggest some of the tennesse stud Pre-pasturized 50/50 poo straw mix?
I think this stuff is great. And pretty much fool proof for the beginer
The straw would work too though.

Oh and to speed up your jars i would use a shakeable grain like Rye.

WBS is good too.

Using the Bulk (straw or poo or both) method will dramaticly increase your yield and your potency.

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Re: The Plan [Re: Squealer]
    #4040192 - 04/11/05 10:14 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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Squealer said:
to mass produce as much of the little shroomies as possible




that's what you will be doing; lots of "little shroomies" is right. they don't very well add up. and honestly.
i would reccomend Tenn Stud PP too, but i think i'd refer you to the straight poo. it will cut your chances of contamination down slightly. and for your first time w/ the stuff. it might not be a bad idea.

next time, if you have no supply of your own, then you may get the basic sub. and pasteurize it yourself using Agar's Poo Pictorial
you can put the cakes in ziplocs just like in casing 101, and break them up a day or two before you spawn them to the poo.

and, more is not necessarily better when it comes to syringes and jars.
it is more of what you do with them that matters.
i would save one each of those syringes fort future attempts, and use both if you need to;
haven't verified this from exp. but it is said to be a no-no to try to case two different strains in the same container.
some people argued about it for a while, but it didn't seem that they came to any conclusion as to why.


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Re: The Plan [Re: psilocyben]
    #4044713 - 04/12/05 09:54 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Alright -
Thanks guys. I think im going to go with xburns advice and try WBS with spawn bags...going today to get supplies to and start the LC. Ill let you know how things go.

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Re: The Plan [Re: Squealer]
    #4044725 - 04/12/05 10:04 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

frankly, man
wbs makes good spawn, and that's it.

anyone who fruits it straight out, has obviously never done poo.

if you get pre-pasteurized, there is hardly any work at all.
no smell (even if you pasteurize it.)
just dump the poo in the tub,
dump in the spawn,
mix them REAL well,
and incubate it for about a week.

take this opportunity to learn from someone else's exp.

curiosity: how did your first attempt fail?


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Re: The Plan [Re: psilocyben]
    #4044805 - 04/12/05 10:39 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like poo is the way to go...anyone with experience please pm me with any pointers or help.

As far as my last attempt, 3 cakes did great, the others took really long to pin, so i put them in the fridge to cold shock, but i made some mistake there because they were contamed when i took them out the next day. but the 3 cakes did good, i just used pf tek, brf with perlite in a rubbermaid.


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Re: The Plan [Re: Squealer]
    #4044829 - 04/12/05 10:49 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

For the pre pasteurized stuff - can i get that at any garden store? is there a certain brand that works best? And should i continue with the liquid culture to spawn onto the poo, or what is the preferred method of innoculating the poo?


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Re: The Plan [Re: Squealer]
    #4045388 - 04/12/05 01:25 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty soon i'm gonna hop in my hoopty and go find some horse ranches near me so i can do a few bulk neglects to try em out. That is what i would recommend but i havent had a chance to try it yet.


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Re: The Plan [Re: Squealer]
    #4045677 - 04/12/05 02:22 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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For the pre pasteurized stuff - can i get that at any garden store? is there a certain brand that works best? And should i continue with the liquid culture to spawn onto the poo, or what is the preferred method of innoculating the poo?




DO NOT BUY POO FROM ANY STORE WHATSOEVER...  Store bought poo is... well, shitty, and doesn't prove very useful at all as a mushroom substrate.  Either get some horse poo from some local stables if you can, or get some TennStud pre-pasteurized horse poo.  This is literally some AWESOME shit! :smile:

As far as innoculating the poo, you don't wanna knock it up with straight LC solution.  You wanna knock up some jars of sterilized grain (WBS, Rye, Millet, Popcorn, etc.) and once that is fully colonized, you mix it with the poo and wait for it to fully colonize the shit.  This is what is referred to as "spawning".  GL Bro :stoned:


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Re: The Plan [Re: NeedMoreSleep]
    #4047965 - 04/12/05 11:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Is it not recommended to spawn horse poo from BRF cakes, or are WBS, rye, millet etc just better? I have a couple BRF cakes inoculated already and wanted to spawn them to some poo if possible...


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Re: The Plan [Re: Squealer]
    #4047988 - 04/12/05 11:57 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

very possible. dosnt really matter what the spawn is the poo takes care of everything.


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Re: The Plan [Re: goofy98]
    #4048062 - 04/13/05 12:17 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome. I have a few sources for horse poo, im gonna pick some up tomorrow. Any tips on sterilization, casing techniques?


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Re: The Plan [Re: Squealer]
    #4048068 - 04/13/05 12:19 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Pasteurize h/poo. Don't sterilize. Read the TEK's.
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