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Invisibleplaastikbob
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Hawk's Eye Magic Formula
    #403827 - 09/25/01 04:53 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

On the Hawks eye web site there is a recipe for a substrate with bird seed. I don't have a pressure cooker but I would love to use this substrate. WOuld it be ok if I baked or microwaved the substrate while it was still dry in order to sterilize?



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Re: Hawk's Eye Magic Formula [Re: plaastikbob]
    #404096 - 09/25/01 08:53 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

The general consensus with bird seed is that you really need a PC to ensure sterility. The finch seed harbors spores inside the grain that often cannot be killed without PCing.



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Re: Hawk's Eye Magic Formula [Re: plaastikbob]
    #404110 - 09/25/01 09:02 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

microwaving it when it is dry wont do a thing!!!! you dont see contams just growing off of dry birdseed do you ??? no!!! it has to be moist for things like that to grow. if you dont have a pc (or something better) then you cant use the seeds, that is the bottom line

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Re: Hawk's Eye Magic Formula [Re: FanaTEK]
    #404118 - 09/25/01 09:05 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

Has anyone actually tried boiling them?  I mean, I hear everyone saying it is impossible with out p coking them, but I have no proof, so I wil probably try on a couple jars just to see.

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Re: Hawk's Eye Magic Formula [Re: plaastikbob]
    #404128 - 09/25/01 09:10 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

It might be possbile to use seed with just baking but i would pastureize it first. Well. first rise it off real good to remove 'bird cote' then let is soak for a day or two in water to germinate endospores. Then u can try to boil it for a while 30min or more. now you can try useing it in substrate and bake it.
I dont know if this would work for sure but , i have never done it, but i dont see why it would not work. If you do let us know how it goes.

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Re: Hawk's Eye Magic Formula [Re: pyromaniac]
    #404145 - 09/25/01 09:17 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

I have actually used bird seed and BRF mix with varying results. Usually I have a very low contamination rate with this mixture: less than one jar per dozen on the average. This was all done without a pressure cooker, just boiling them. So yes, it is possible to just boil them successfully, it just doesn't work out all the time.



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