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OfflineDamn
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fear of NO CONTROL
    #4033812 - 04/09/05 11:44 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

on high doses i feel as if my body and are 1,000 of miles away from each other, thats when my trip goes bad , because i feel as if my body could be running around doing crazy things while my mind is shooting through space. when actually im not moving at all. but this really freaks me out, thinking i could be walking outside or putting myself in harms way. Its as if i think my body is doing what it does on salvia. this makes my trip a train ride into hell. any tips? can anyone reassure me im not ggonna be running around , ill just be laying in my bed where i started? lol thanks everyone/


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Damn]
    #4033935 - 04/09/05 12:39 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

your mind has control of you're body when you're on shrooms...you just need to accept and believe that. maybe when you start to feel like that, move your arms around or something to prove to yourself that you're in control. you'll get used to the feeling eventually, and a trip sitter would help.

maybe you're doing too big doses. do a lower dose so you feel more in control. then you can build up the doses gradually so that by the time you reach big doses, you still feel in control.


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: alsey]
    #4034045 - 04/09/05 01:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

And part of trip can be that you are resolved to the place where you do not control. You could realize you are only the organization of alien energies and the thing you thought was yourself was just the end process of meaningless processes. You could feel you have no control, just let go and release the control. That feeling of losing control is itself a barrier to your release.


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: mecreateme]
    #4034189 - 04/09/05 02:17 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, you've got to get used to that feeling and learn to TRUST yourself and the mushrooms. When you are off in fantasy hallucination land, the most you are doing is rolling around on the floor, and maybe knocking over a drink or something.

I think it's very rare that your body does stuff like walking around without you at least being AWARE of it, even if you don't have control over it (which is also rare). Usually, you just don't have control over your mind...


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: dr0mni]
    #4038580 - 04/10/05 10:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

thanks, i think this is mainly because i do larger doses in complete darkness, so i cant even see my body. if my the light are one and i can physically see my body, ill know i have no control. and i can just pad lock the door and hide the combination for the morning lol im just going to down the dosage a gram or two , ill take it easily as i go. i think i may have got over confident because of my large dose experiences before, the effect was alot weaker, it could hav ejust been weak mushrooms. o well , mushrooms arent anything you figure out in a day, takes alot of experience. thanks


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Damn]
    #4047424 - 04/12/05 09:12 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The more you let the trip flow through you, and the more you accept it, the more you are able to control yourself. Though if you're gonna get really high, you should have someone with you who will be considerably more sober.


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Damn]
    #4073204 - 04/19/05 05:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

From the way I see it, You are adventuring to another world and you are trying to grasp on to your normal world which is causing a conflict. I feel that you must choose one or the other.


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Damn]
    #4073410 - 04/19/05 06:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Who says you have control to begin with?

Humans are peculiar creatures. They labour under the illusion that they are able to control themselves and their surroundings when the fact of the matter is that they aren't. It gives them a sense of predictability and certainty in an unpredictable and uncertain world.

Learn to succumb to the feeling. During trancelike states the body rarely if ever moves so remember this and try to enjoy it.

Good luck.

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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: BorgFace]
    #4074370 - 04/19/05 10:13 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

pussy


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Abermelin]
    #4075743 - 04/20/05 05:13 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Who the hell are you talking to?

Nobody needs this kind of negativity on the boards thanks.


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: BorgFace]
    #4078947 - 04/20/05 10:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

its a joke. god you people are fucking uptight for shroomers.


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Abermelin]
    #4079297 - 04/21/05 12:26 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Abermelin said:
pussy




Ab, you need to be more clear, and less negative with your humor.

No matter how you look at it, you did call him a pussy. Your humor wasn't clear. It sounded more like you were calling him a pussy. I checked the post again for further detail... nothing. It just said, "Pussy".

Humor, at someone elses expense, when they are looking for help, in THIS Forum, earns you a warning. Sorry, I guess you may be right right. Perhaps us people are uptight.

Don't take it personally. Hey, at least I didn't call you a "Pussy" or "Fucking uptight".

This Forum must keep a positive "Set" and "Setting" for obvious reasons. Please respect that fact.

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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Rose]
    #4079360 - 04/21/05 12:44 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

A dog jumped over the
the fence.


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Abermelin]
    #4079412 - 04/21/05 12:55 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Better. Now, please stay on topic... or visit our lovely Off Topic Forum.


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Rose]
    #4079559 - 04/21/05 01:24 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I said A dog jumped over the
the fence.

please stay on topic cervical.


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Damn]
    #4079660 - 04/21/05 01:48 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

You must give up control to gain control.

Fear of NO CONTROL? It is just your ego making a fuss.

If you trip, let yourself trip.


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Re: fear of NO CONTROL [Re: Rose]
    #4084185 - 04/22/05 10:05 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

It happens to me every so often, but i've found something that works. Just come to terms with yourself and say 'Fuck it, Whatever happens i'll deal with it in the morning, right now i'm going to have some fun.' Smile, take a deep breath, and begin entertaining yourself with the swirling patterns or deep-space thoughts & let the negativetly flow free from your mind :mushroom2:.


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